Comparison left vs right for a craftsman who doesnt know which one he should buy:

  • l/r same bed size

  • r lower bed for way easier loading/unloading

  • r less likely to crash

  • r less fuel consumption and costs

  • r less expensive to repair

  • r easy to park

  • r easy to get around in narrow places like crowded construction sites or towns

  • r not participating in road arms race

  • l You get taken serious by your fellow carbrained americans because ““trucks”” are normalized and small handy cars are ridiculed.

So unless you are a fragile piece of human, choose the right one.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Oh that may be true- but if we’re talking to working craftsman and builders as opposed to “anyone buying a truck” I think it matters.

    Most truck buyers don’t need one. I don’t have a truck but I do have a 3600lb pop up camper that we tow with a Honda pilot. It’s basically the exact same car as the Honda Ridgeline pickup but with a hatch instead of a bed. It’s also a kid and vacation mobile.

    In my case I’m not a craftsman but still couldn’t get by with the little truck because of towing and passenger capacity, that’s all I was saying.

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      Yeah for the whole 3 times a year you tow that thing.

      That’s just it: 99% of the time these vehicles are not being used to their capacity.

      And people think that 1% somehow justifies the entire other 99%

      It’s laughable.

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        Well first off, we go camping 3 seasons a year, sometimes twice a month. Renting a car for camping, sometimes hundreds of miles away a dozen times a year doesn’t make any financial sense. Second, it’s our only big car and it’s used every time we have to pack the kids, dog, and luggage to go somewhere. My daily driver is a 4 door Subaru, not a Tahoe.

        If I only need to tow or pack a vehicle once a year, I’d definitely consider renting, but that’s just not the case. I just hauled about 1000 lbs of lumber from home depot today- it literally gets used for its purpose on a weekly basis.

        I’m not arguing the point there are lots of pickup bros that just run around in a king ranch solo and spend their weekend polishing it and taking all the parking spots at the mall, I’m just saying I really don’t think it’s really 99%. I see hundreds of tradespeople and weekend home improvement warriors on a daily basis.

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          Every pickup bro think pickups are justified. And they trot out all the same points you just made.

          I offer you challenge: count every pickup you see, and record whether or not it has a load. I actually did that for a month, and its literally below 1% usage.

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            Every sedan bro think sedans are justified. And they trot out all the same points you just made.

            I offer you challenge: count every sedan you see, and record whether or not it has all seats filled. I actually did that for a month, and its literally below 1% usage.

            That’s what you sound like.

            Yes, too many people have large trucks that don’t really use them for their purpose, but some of them are not that different from a sports car or sedan when not hauling a load for mileage and shouldn’t be expected to be used 24/7. SUVs are probably worse overall than trucks when it comes to excess unused space and mediocre mileage, but nobody complains about those.

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              but some of them are not that different from a sports car or sedan when not hauling a load for mileage

              Sports cars sure, but sedans? Buuuuullshit.

              and shouldn’t be expected to be used 24/7.

              Why not?

              SUVs are probably worse overall than trucks when it comes to excess unused space and mediocre mileage, but nobody complains about those.

              Are you serious, people complain about oversized SUVs all the time. Please.

              You’ve now reached the tone of desperate justification that people with oversized vehicles always fall back to.

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        I think ideally most people would prefer a smaller car as a daily driver and a larger one to be used as needed but insurance and registration costs wipe out any gas savings. And renting a vehicle for long trips is often prohibitively expensive. So that leaves this option of using a car that 99% of the time is not necessary.

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      I see a truck towing something maybe once a week. I see hundreds of trucks a day. 1/100s < 1%