Hello, Thank for sharing! Seems like it already got posted to !reddit@lemmy.world, maybe we can keep the Reddit discussions over there? There isn’t that much technology discussed on Reddit nowadays, it’s mostly a sinking ship by now.
Actually most of the discussion happens in !reddit@lemmy.ml
It appears I’m not allowed to interact on that instance, did lemmy.world defederate from lemmy.ml?
Lemmy.ml is dying because the ml domain got picked back up by mali.
Probably the issue with the .ml again
And who could have guessed? U r right, I’m absolutely baffled this is a serious issue…
Hm, interesting, I have no idea unfortunately
Let the instance wars begin!
That’s quite rich, after the way they treated their mods.
Really a sign of them not giving a shit about anyone.
No good person would put up with being a mod for reddit after this shit show with spez. The only incentive to put up with that is the financial gains of allowing astroturfing as a mod (for example) or having a really weird power trip. Very curious to see how reddit will evolve with that kind of leadership
I’m still technically a mod for a small subreddit. I polled the users, they weren’t interested in moving over to Lemmy.
(Edit because prematurely posted)
I’m still hoping they’ll move over, but tbh it’s a good bunch of posters on a niche subject and the mod team has never had to be too active. The topic had a been literally unmodded for years before the current mod team fell into it, so I’m confident we’re not needed.
We’re literally just a placeholder to keep someone power mad from becoming mod. (Long story long: founding mod advanced sub, came back after years, was mad the subreddit didn’t agree with his crap opinions, made the sub private, I and a few other posters made a new subreddit.)
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The problem is that there just isn’t an alternative for some communities (yet). For some things there’s ONE space to talk about it and/or a nice little helpful community.
IMO it’s up to each person how they want to move forwards, and staying on in a limited capacity is a fair compromise. Another advantage being the community can later be redirected when users are ready.
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They care about revenue. They made it clear during protest. “Well our revenue isn’t really impacted so whatever on we go!!”
But it was and they’re showing their true faces.
Any luck getting the ask historian mods to switch over to lemmy. That I think would tip the scale permanently
They did make a post about it, Lemmy is no where near large enough for them to be interested. Their mission is to showcase history on a large public platform.
They said they are not happy with how the company has acted, but it would take a much bigger issue to get them to consider moving.
Wonder what the thing that would be tipping point for them would look like.
Either way - shame. I really enjoyed that sub.
It would take times, the more informative content we have (even the what’s your top 5 thing posts) that common people use search engine to look up for and find, the more we will get exposure, just like how reddit find its audience. Imo, as long as lemmy doesn’t get into front page of search engine, I’m afraid the number of lemmyverse users that migrate from reddit won’t sharply increase unless reddit does more fuckups. This might also mean, there will be inevitably one or a select few big lemmy instances that will get more exposure.
In any case, it’s not necessarily a bad thing; Lemmy (and kbin) needs a lot of improvement to be accessible to most people. Let people that are tech-savvy and those who are passionate in open-source projects improve it first. Otherwise, others will try and find lemmy too complicated to use as it is right now and not interested in using it later down the road.
Just my 0.02
I also don’t think Lemmy is ready for everyone, especially in terms of moderation. The tools are very limited and hard to access. I have to navigate to each post to deal with it, and the only 3 options (right next to one another) are ‘remove post’, ‘ban from community’ and ‘appoint as mod’.
There’s also no modmail or automod tools, which are really important as a community gets large.
It’s fine for now with the communities I’m moderating, but I’d understand if some Reddit communities don’t feel ready
Honest question. Wouldn’t them coming over here be good and make it larger?
I mean yeah, it would be good, and maybe make it larger, but reddit has 100 million MAU and we have less than 1% of that. They’re not wrong that moving would massively impact their reach. I don’t think 99+ million people will move for AskHistorians.
Although I also doubt that it will happen until Lemmy gets some good moderation tools first. In its current state, it wouldn’t quite fit what they need to do with the sub, especially with the heavy moderation that they would need to do.
What’s special about those mods?
They moderate rigorously.
Participating in one of their threads is like attending a university course.
Most people don’t have the context to actually participate in the discussions, but the quality is on a completely different level.
If your post isn’t atleast 5000 words, it will be deleted.
Wild. I don’t find extremely moderated subs to be an example of what I want to see here. I felt just as bad going to subs like that as I did going to subs where the mods don’t do anything to control the users. IMO, (and I realize it’s very much MY OWN opinion), is that discussion shouldn’t ever be purged unless it’s illegal or hate speech.
What about spam? Stuff completely unrelated to the community? Porn?
Certain heavily moderated subs made sense, like ask historians, where the purpose of the sub was to have actually knowledgeable responses instead of internet ass-pulling.
Honestly in some cases, it might be preferable to the heavy moderation I’ve seen. I can close a spam post or porn post in a second, but it takes a bit more work to restore an entire thread of hundreds of comments to see the discussion because some mod didn’t like it.
Given how ban happy subreddit mods can be, I don’t know that that’s the best idea in the world.
It’s precisely what everyone said would happen. Spez and the Reddit team seem not to realise how important mods and users were to their business! The number of people who will do the thankless task of dealing with the internet’s undercurrent of horrendous behaviour are few.
It’s precisely what everyone said would happen.
I don’t disagree with your general point, but I remember that there were many people (on reddit, but also on lemmy) who said there would be lots of power-hungry redditors just waiting to take over and that the admins would thus have no trouble at all finding replacements.
Finding replacement is one thing. Finding good replacement an entirely different one.
Let’s see how many are willing to go through all that regurgitating shit and survive a month in their new profession.
It’s never a good idea to set yourself up to be disappointed in humans because you’re gonna be disappointed lol
It’s not recognizing as such, but refusing to admit someone not directly under the magnificent leadership of the CEO can do anything important or have good ideas on how to run things. Toxic Techbro culture.
To techbros, people doing voluntary work for them is something to be exploited, not rewarded. They see the mods as saps as they would never do anything for free.
spez = Reddit CEO Steve Huffman.
Just so it’s all clear. We don’t want to be ambiguous about that.
I’d like to mod r/FuckSpez. Where do I sign up?
He made sure to ban that group.
He can’t ban it on Lemmy.
That would be /c/FuckSpez, not /r/FuckSpez.
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Reddit apparently still hasn’t figured out the maxim “Don’t piss off the free help.” TANSTAFL.
Reddit, The clown kingdom.
lmfao - may a well just reach out to ol’ Hitler Murdoch over at Fox to help him fill his holes
That was the best?!?
Are you asking?!?
Haha.
Holy hell this thread is full of boot slobber. What the fuck is so good to you guys about having a mod over your shoulder ever second making sure you don’t step out of whatever line they decided to draw in their imaginary sand?
Reddit Mods were never good. They were some of the worst people on Reddit. The admins are the only people worse than the mods.
For a lot of the big subs, sure. But every mod I encountered in the hobby/food/gardening subs were good and ran good spaces.
I can’t figure out where all the lemmy people posting about reddits “power tripping power mods” were posting. I think I ran across one mod in the wild (niche sub) that I thought was crazy and they got run off the platform eventually. What were people posting that they were getting banned all over the place? Maybe the mods weren’t the problem if multiple were banning you?
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There are also bad power tripping mods on Lemmy.
What communities should I be avoiding?
Lemmy.world has them.
Can you please cite a specific example from a specific community? I’m not trying to say that you’re lying I’m just interested in learning more about this.
maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world
Seriously, 90% of Reddit mods are on a power trip, they permanently ban you and mute you instantly at the slightest transgression or if they just don’t like you. Also, everyone single one of them claims to be one of the good ones, lol.
Sweeping generalizations are never good or correct.
All sweeping generalizations are bad!
Most mods tend to follow the quantity of reports they receive from the community. If you post something that triggers lots of random users… then you are screwed.
And yes, that also happens on Lemmy… as much as folks around here consider it as a “holy ground filled with saints”. :^)
t. A mod threatened to ban me because I was “spamming” – while I was posting once per day.
90% of mods did non obvious work like stopping spammers from overrunning subs.
If you think they all ban for fun then the problem is you.
Ah, but when a subreddit had mostly mods from that 10%,
AskHistorians, AskScience, WhatIsThisThing, etc.
Maybe this is another example of Sturgeon’s law.
Don’t know, I stopped visiting WhatIsThisThing after an encounter with a really trippy mod that handed out bans like candy. But maybe they got kicked and striped of their role
That’s the case for every sub with a political undertone.
Most subs for your favourite hobby is usually nice. Unless your hobby is US politics, believing walking dogs 5 hours a week is a job, or inventing a patriarchal society to tear down.
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If the system wasn’t a patriarch, why do we call it “The Man”?
inventing a patriarchal society to tear down.
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