President Joe Biden on Friday ordered a historic change to the Uniform Code of Military Justice by transferring key decision-making authorities outside the military chain of command in cases of sexual assault, domestic violence, child abuse, murder and other serious crimes.
It was in the chain of command before? Wow gee I wonder how that could possibly go wrong!
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Why the fuck are these cases even handled by the military and not the regular criminal and civil courts?
Playing advocate, but that’s why UCMJ exists, at all. They should prosecute all crimes under UCMJ, or none. It doesn’t make much sense to only do certain crimes under civilian courts.
The UCMJ is also harsher than civilian courts when prosecuted appropriately. It has specific statues related to military-type crimes like duty abandonment and not following orders.
You don’t want to go to military jail, that’s for sure.
I mean, if UCMJ doesn’t consider prosecuting rape to be worth their time, it’s good that they’ve been relieved of that duty. Solders endure enough trauma, getting raped by those they serve with and under shouldn’t be par for the course.
The civilian justice system is absolutely not better at executing justice and is arguably worse on many ways when comparing similar cases. At least the rape kits get actually tested and processed in the military.
I wonder if you realize you’re commenting on a reply of someone telling a story about how one wasnt even investigated and then the rapist was promoted after doing it again.
There’s plenty to criticize in our civilian justice system, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty to criticize in our military justice system. This is one of those things, the military is notoriously bad at handling sexual assault cases.
I was commenting on if it is worth their time. I find it to be a wholely unjustified statement given the fact that they actually conduct justice unlike civilian juridictions. If it wasn’t worth their time, they wouldn’t be addressing it.
Because the military has been fighting it for years. I remember having a SHARP class where the instructor was telling us that we didn’t want this, that civilians shouldn’t get involved in military matters and some other bullshit I can’t recall.
I was too young, dumb, and loyal to a fault to understand what was being said.
Supposedly to hold them to a higher standard, but like with police internal affairs it is just a way to deflect attention that would make the system look bad.
Just to spell it out:
Promotions are based on performance. After a few promotions, you have people that report to you. This means their performance is your performance. So the CoC properly handling rape allegations is against their own self interest.
There’s a documentary called the invisible war that covers this topic in excruciating detail.
Did I rape my subordinates?
Let me check…
Nope, I found no wrongdoing.
Here that, gang? Now stay in line.
oh oh!!! now to the police next please!
Ahh good. The Catholic Church model of reporting and punishment doesn’t work so well
I heard Pope Francis was changing that, cause yeaaaah…
Having it reported through Confession which by doctrine cannot be shared or punished, not really working out for anyone.
I’ve heard it said that women in the military get assaulted so often they’re basically the state’s own unwilling prostitutes.
Notice the absence of people telling you that Democrats and Republicans are the same. Wonder where those are…maybe too busy ignoring reality.
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By the recent actions of lefty content creators i’d say that group has almost completely lost relevancy.
We are seeing a sort of ‘cooling’ of bad leftist politics like refusing-to-vote and all-or-nothing mentality.
Which is good because if we have any hope to mitigate the worst of climate change for the disenfranchised in our society it’s with the democrats.
Someone program this bot wrong?
It replied to a sexual assault topic with barfing up a climate change ummmm…response?
Hot take, but as bad as rape is - its nothing compared to the systematic fucking that is still running with flying colours both red and blue.
I’m sure we’ll see a million LGBTQ rights and bike lanes before a single major problem is solved - shit even if the FTC broke up a single super monopoly today I’d be suprised.
So I mean hey at least one of us is here
Do I need to call your nurse?
Nah I’m just tired of the constant heatwaves that line our overlords pocket.
Tbh to put it in simpler terms I feel like were in a sinking ship hand bildgeing out water when there’s an asshole on the other side of the ship ripping out boards for his own benefit - scoop all you want but the problem is never gonna be solved until we look at the root cause. Both red and blue are contributers and will never make a law against those with capital (who had an entire island dedicated to rape??).
Never mistake the lesser of two evils for good, path to hell is paved with good intentions
LGBTQ rights and the damage we’re doing with excessive cars are things that need to be addressed and solved though? If people would get over gay people existing and stop being so easily led to outrage about it we’d be done with it by now and moving the fuck on. To the detriment of not a single person. It’s an issue because people insist on making it an issue. God forbid you mind your own business and stop worrying about what random people do with their genitals.
Imagine trying to “both sides” something and starting your comment with “as bad as rape is”. Both sides my ass. Only one side is trying to make slavery out to be a positive thing for black people (teaching this IN SCHOOLS btw), obsessing over where people take a shit, and trying to make women barefoot and pregnant again. Both sides is a lie people tell themselves to try and pretend there’s a valid reason to be a bigot.
I mean, LGBTQ rights are only “not a major problem” to those who aren’t LGBTQ. But to many they’re absolutely critical too.
There can be multiple horrifying problems to fix. “All” would be stellar to fix, but “some” is still better than “none.”
Till the next repub pres ovrrturns this?
Regardless, hope this sticks.
Kinda surprised it took this long.
Time for the floodgates to open.
Can someone explain the change to me? I do not understand how it was done before, why that was bad, and how this is different and better. (Things I probably would have included in the article, had I written it)
Historically, these investigations have been handled by the higher-ups in the chain of command. Say one soldier raped another and the victim reported it. Their mutual boss and that boss’s bosses would be responsible for any investigation and discipline.
They have the same negative incentive to provide thorough investigation and justice as college campus police do - because in the end it makes them look bad at their jobs and makes the institution that signs their paychecks look bad. So they just don’t. Often victims are ignored or worse, disciplined themselves.
This will provide a third party not involved in the chain of command for reporting and investigation of sexual assault allegations.
He said he didn’t “want to bore you with detail here,” but that basically,
“I know it may not sound like much,” Kirby said
The headline grabbed my support. This lines cooled my excitement. Thoughts from others? I feel like maybe the headline isn’t as much of a grand slam when I see this kind of waffling.
That’s the kind of vibe I get from most of the Biden administration’s actions. They make for great lists of actions to show that they’re doing something, but in practice how effective is it really?
So instead of following the chain of command we’ll just skip straight to the guy who dismisses the charges. Finally some efficiency around here!
Is it still cool and edgy to be fatalistic? I think I missed the memo.
