• jayk@lemmy.ca
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      I think this is a form of misogyny. FtM aren’t taken seriously because they’re seen as confused women

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        I think its specifically the “women are precious and fragile and need to be protected” form of misogyny, since it explains both hatred towards MtF and the ignoring of FtM

        ::: spolier cw transphobia As you said, FtM folks are disregarded as confused and mistaken and needing help, needing saving from “gender ideology” and MtF folks are predators, attacking women in bathrooms, and the women must be protected from them. :::

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          ::: spolier cw transphobia

          You need the content to be on separate lines from the start tag and the end tag, like so:

          ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
          hidden content
          :::
          

          You’re spot on otherwise

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      It’s because it goes against the conservative conspiracy theory of trans women simply being men in dresses infiltrating womens’ public toilets and prisons as a means to harass them.

      “And what’s your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What’s their sinister ulterior motive?” is a question they don’t have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn’t exist. They’re conveniently ignored.

      It’s fundamentally harder to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt over “women dressed as men” than it is to do it for the inverse.

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        “And what’s your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What’s their sinister ulterior motive?” is a question they don’t have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn’t exist.

        I mean, in their eyes that would be a woman rising to the superior caste of men for no good reason. We can’t have that either!

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        If they don’t recognize FtM as men then they’re seeing them as women and they don’t respect women. They also understand that MtF can look good and believe that, despite seeing them fully as women “at the time of erection”, that they were “tricked into being gay” even if all they saw was a picture on the internet or a trans women on the street. And then they somehow still treat them as women and go out and attack them in ways they’d never do to a man, so clearly they’ve accepted it deep-down. It’s just a big fucking mess that they won’t put any effort into cleaning up.

        They need therapy and emotional regulation and instead they have indoctrination, childhood trauma, and two rusty braincells struggling to make any connection with eachother.

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      My personal theory on this (with absolutely no negativity directed at anyone at all, and a willingness to be shown I’m wrong) is that FtM pass unnoticed more easily in many scenarios.

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        Makes sense. A women wearing pants is pretty par for the course and anyone else they’d just call a butch lesbian and, more or less, move on.