• XiozTzu@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Electoral politics can get the job done but the populous is apathetic for various reasons.

    What makes anyone think that people will instead decide to put their livelihoods in peril to accomplish the same thing?

    Vote people!!

    Don’t get suckered in by identity politics and wedge issues.
    Don’t ever vote for a populist with dictatorial tendencies. Especially when that person is a convicted felon, a known liar and a narcissist.

    It is so obvious!!!

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      20 hours ago

      Vote people!!

      They did. For Trump.

      What makes anyone think that people will instead decide to put their livelihoods in peril to accomplish the same thing?

      Assuming enough people do it, it’s been tremendously successful historically. Hell, we saw what one week of diminished capitalism can do in March 2020.

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      20 hours ago

      You’re talking as if liberals didn’t lay the groundwork for everything Trump is able to accomplish.

      You’re also trying to conflate apathy for people refusing to vote for someone that does not represent their best interests. People that say ‘vote’ are usually looking out for their best interests and demand that everyone else support their best interests.

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        16 hours ago

        Liberals laid the groundwork to prevent Trump from doing far worse. Without courts and checks and balances, Trump would never have left power after 2016 and women, trans people, and minorities would all be literal slaves.

        I agree a general strike will do far more than voting, but don’t lose the plot of what’s realistic and possible in pursuit of your idealism. It’s a problem of scale. A general strike is many orders of magnitude more difficult than winning an election.

        I’ll be there to strike when the general strike is supposed to happen, but until the general strike happens, if it ever happens, you calling for a general strike does zero material good.

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      19 hours ago

      the populous is apathetic for various reasons.

      Typical lib, refusing to actually look at the core of the problem (like trillions spent on propaganda, state and capitalist indoctrination since birth, people being deliberately kept too busy and burnt out trying to keep their head above the water, people being deliberately taught a whitewashed version of history and deprived of critical thinking skills, and the list goes on and on and on, but sure “various reasons” so easily dismissed and ignored), and instead expects individual to “solve” systemic problems (and I put solve in brackets quotation marks, because liberals, eternal guardians of the status quo, don’t actually want to solve anything, hence the insistence of repeating the same mistake over and over, playing by the oppressor’s rules, and pretending to expect a different result).

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        19 hours ago

        Typical lib.

        You know you’re parroting nazis, right. If you have a problem with corporate centrists you should come up with a different slur for them.

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          16 hours ago

          Liberals are a lot closer to nazis than any leftist, and infinitely more willing to work and compromise with them. Libs are the left wing of fascism, a necessary piece to allow nazis to take power, and you’ll never realize that bc you think your politics are 100% infallible and good and flawless

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              12 hours ago

              From growing up in the US and paying even the tiniest amount of attention to national politics. You should try it some time, or just learn some history from 1930s Germany considering how things are going