A poll on Mastodon: what’s the overlap between fans of Star Trek and fans of the sci fi genre of solarpunk?

  • Mactan
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    8 hours ago

    trek is pretty posadist isn’t it? where solarpunk would rather not go there?

    • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.website
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      3 hours ago

      I had no idea what Posadism was until you mentioned it. Looking at it, I think elements of it are coincidentally in there, but I don’t think that’s totally what it’s trying to convey.

      For one, Boseman, Montana definitely didn’t look that socialist, and yet Cochrane developed a warp drive; it was the new connections and widened view of the galaxy that facilitated the development of socialism. Sure, the Vulcans helped, but it was humans who had to change.

      Also, I feel like “aliens helping in revolution” is sort of antithetical to the concept of the Prime Directive.

      Overall, I think Star Trek is less about through ufologic socialism and more about peoples figuring out socialism for themselves; space and aliens are mostly just a plot device to explore.

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      13 hours ago

      I liked this video on it. Basically, a play on the ideas of cyberpunk, but rather than using grim art as a warning, it instead focuses on radical optimism and envisioning a world we should strive to create. Building off the the ideas of renewable power, hence the solar, it posits that technology used in the right way can bring us to a beautiful and healthy society, freed from the capitalist systems that are poisoning our environment and selves.

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        10 hours ago

        I think you replied to yourself…

        It’s not quite: a key feature of solarpunk is nature, and our relationship to it. Trek is definitely aligned in concept, but aside from specific episodes, our relationship with nature is not a central theme.

        Solarpunk is also usually closer to the present or more direct in its critique of current challenges like climate breakdown.

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            9 hours ago

            Oh. They’re different servers! That’s actually a very clever joke. I’m sorry I didn’t pay close enough attention to appreciate it.

            That got a chuckle out of me. Heh.

            • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net
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              6 hours ago

              All good, I know many front ends hide the instance for local users by default. I went to .world to get a screenshot with both instance names in them lol.

  • bishbosh@lemm.ee
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    13 hours ago

    I think the realities of physics will make true interstellar travel hopeless, so to me solar punk as an aesthetic is the more real idea of humanities possible utopia, should one ever exist. With that, I think it also pretty strongly ties the art with action. These facts giving a more grounding for praxis than start trek.