This has been a concern of mine for awhile now, and it’s finally happening. My only close friends are people I have grown up my whole life with. We’re all suburbanite cishet crackermen who were well-off enough to never have to struggle with potentially starving or becoming homeless; predictably, this has fostered some garbage politics, mainly trumpanzees and blue MAGA. With Cheeto Hitler removing whatever shreds of a mask of humanity the Great Satan had left, I now have my blue MAGA friends calling out my trumpanzee friends for their support of Drumpf. The trumpanzees have been silent since the inauguration, and today the group chat has been split.

It was already a terrible form of liberalism for me to have let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship with people who, if I wasn’t already close to, would throw in the cuck pit. There is still a major issue in that the most vocal of the friends I’m still in touch with are blue MAGA to the point that, if I’m to grow a spine and actually stop letting things slide, I’m worried that I’ll be smeared as fascist myself and lose the close friends I have because pushing back against great man theory takes that make Orange Satan out to be a uniquely evil force instead of recognizing the evil of the system that produced him will invariably come across as defending Trump. I’m bad at making myself go outside, let alone making friends, that I’ll have very few IRL people in my actual life.

Edit: The issue seems to have been deeper than politics, and the sides reconciled. However, the baseline seems to be “no outright evil political beliefs”, and Marxism Leninism is considered evil by most burgers.

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    I definitely don’t agree. If you can’t handle a struggle session with friends, what’s the point?

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        Sure. But imo to completely avoid ‘politics’ (impossible) is not a good idea. I cannot speak for you or OP, but with my friend groups, that would never fly with me. All my close friends know that I’ve been a very politically engaged person since I was 14 and I make no secret of this. If they are your ‘real’ friends, I would hope there would be a level of understanding between each other. If your friendship is just based on hobbies, the friendship may not be as strong as one thinks.

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          I get what you are saying, but still, situations differ, and I wouldn’t in good conscious recommend to a total stranger to enact a confrontation with other total strangers (to me). In my circle of friends, I have 3 or 4 friends who we’ve always disagreed politically, but we can hold a discussion because we understand each other’s boundaries, and we are not trying to convince each other. I have 2-3 other friends who are alligned with me, and I have 2-3 other friends who are apolitical, and don’t like engaging in politics that much. They are the “default position is liberal” kind of people. So we just leave them be when they are in the group. All this was mutually agreed upon.

          If your friendship is just based on hobbies, the friendship may not be as strong as one thinks.

          Sure, but likewise, it doesn’t mean a friendship should be based on political alignments or that one should be jumping at the opportunity to create rifts just because they think their friendship with others is “strong/weak”. Obviously OP is uncomfortable with confronting their group, and I am assuming they know their situation much better than me, so I tried to give them the solution that is the most harmless and still can potentially fix their problem.

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            yeah I agree with you. OP seems to be close to a breaking point where people are losing respect for each other, i guess my point is if friends can’t be respectful among each other, it’s best not to be friends.