Irish Catholics not guilty of SA you say? And the protestants are just English, so they’re guilty too. And the Scots have been Britains willing dogs for most of the century, even being disproportionately represented in the slave trade.
the Scots have been Britains willing dogs for most of the century
Obviously peaky blinders isn’t a historical documentary but I got the distinct impression from it that the Scots were eager to join the fascists in WW2; was wondering if that correlated to actual history.
I don’t think they were particularly inclined to fascism more than England. There are lots of noteworthy Scottish communists from that time too. Just as there were English communists.
That’s my point really - they’re not as different as they like to think, even if Scots n English supposedly hate each other. Scotland has been under English rule for about 3-4 centuries.
It’s true to say they’ve often had the hard end of the stick from England, but so did everywhere else North of London IN England. Scotland is just north of northern England.
Just like in England there were also Scottish nazis. Rudolph Hess crash landed in Scotland trying to negotiate with the Duke of Hamilton during the war. You also had some Scottish nationalists who were eager to join the nazis against the communists and capitalists of England. But you can probably find similar in England if you do a cursory look (other than the Hess landing, that is pretty unique).
Scotland has way too good a rep compared to England given that they were eager participants in the crimes of empire.
That’s mostly the priests, who come and go from all over. Ireland actually probably has a lower percentage of assaults from priests because until homosexuality was more accepted in society at large that was a place where a lot of gay men went to be relatively safe.
And the Scots have been Britains willing dogs for most of the century
Considering how many Scots seemed ready to go independent recently, I think they may disagree. I think Scotland doesn’t have a huge economy on its own either so historically mercenary work was what kept them relatively safe from the English, but I don’t think they’re happy about that state of affairs.
And the protestants are just English, so they’re guilty too
Not that I have an axe to grind here, just had this pop up on my feed and thought it was funny… CW: The Telegraph
'Alan Cochrane -
Scots built the Empire – let’s be proud of it
Many of my compatriots seem to believe that they are victims of colonialism – our schools must be failing’
https://archive.is/LIRHq
“A new survey has convinced me of two things. The first is that I’m intensely proud to be an imperialist; no, not the kind who is said to be forever on the lookout for new lands to invade and subjugate.
Instead I’m happy to be British and Scottish and proud to have been part of that Empire on which the sun never set and which was a force for good in the world.”
Irish Catholics not guilty of SA you say? And the protestants are just English, so they’re guilty too. And the Scots have been Britains willing dogs for most of the century, even being disproportionately represented in the slave trade.
Wales is alright
Obviously peaky blinders isn’t a historical documentary but I got the distinct impression from it that the Scots were eager to join the fascists in WW2; was wondering if that correlated to actual history.
I don’t think they were particularly inclined to fascism more than England. There are lots of noteworthy Scottish communists from that time too. Just as there were English communists.
That’s my point really - they’re not as different as they like to think, even if Scots n English supposedly hate each other. Scotland has been under English rule for about 3-4 centuries.
It’s true to say they’ve often had the hard end of the stick from England, but so did everywhere else North of London IN England. Scotland is just north of northern England.
Just like in England there were also Scottish nazis. Rudolph Hess crash landed in Scotland trying to negotiate with the Duke of Hamilton during the war. You also had some Scottish nationalists who were eager to join the nazis against the communists and capitalists of England. But you can probably find similar in England if you do a cursory look (other than the Hess landing, that is pretty unique).
Scotland has way too good a rep compared to England given that they were eager participants in the crimes of empire.
That’s mostly the priests, who come and go from all over. Ireland actually probably has a lower percentage of assaults from priests because until homosexuality was more accepted in society at large that was a place where a lot of gay men went to be relatively safe.
Considering how many Scots seemed ready to go independent recently, I think they may disagree. I think Scotland doesn’t have a huge economy on its own either so historically mercenary work was what kept them relatively safe from the English, but I don’t think they’re happy about that state of affairs.
Which is why I don’t count them among the Irish
Not that I have an axe to grind here, just had this pop up on my feed and thought it was funny… CW: The Telegraph
'Alan Cochrane - Scots built the Empire – let’s be proud of it
Many of my compatriots seem to believe that they are victims of colonialism – our schools must be failing’ https://archive.is/LIRHq
“A new survey has convinced me of two things. The first is that I’m intensely proud to be an imperialist; no, not the kind who is said to be forever on the lookout for new lands to invade and subjugate. Instead I’m happy to be British and Scottish and proud to have been part of that Empire on which the sun never set and which was a force for good in the world.”