• vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Yes, we will (critically) support any means to justify the ends we want.

    I won’t support, even critically, any means to justify the end we want. I will support some means and make a moral balance, but I won’t support just any means

    And most importantly, it involves using violence to defend revolutionary gains.

    To me, more than “using violence to defend revolutionary gains”, it’s being aware that the ones in power right now in class war aren’t afraid of using such violence, and we need to defend ourselves, sometimes preemptively, from such violence.

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      I won’t support, even critically, any means to justify the end we want. I will support some means and make a moral balance, but I won’t support just any means

      In practice I’d keep some things off the table as well, but our attitude should reflect the seriousness of the situation we are facing. Possibly hundreds of millions of people are going to die needless deaths in the coming decades.

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        Balkan Odyssey has a video on the death toll of capitalism and the number is on the hundreds of millions already. I’m just saying that there are some means I won’t support, without needing to specify which or why I guess. Morality is a grey thing