• Luffy879
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    The Problem with the left is that they actually have different opinions. The right is just different shades of Nazis. The left is a bunch of fundimentally different approaches to make the world the world a better place. Therefore, of course the Nazis are going to win.

    What we are talking about is the paradox of inclusivity. Either the 99% oppress the 1%, or the 1% oppress the 99%. From an ethical, a democratic, a Constitutional, and an ecological standpoint, oppressing the 1% would be the right thing.

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      The Left seems to be made of up a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to enact. People are for something but they can’t agree on what.

      The Right seems to be made up of a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to repeal. People are against something but can’t agree on what. They also have Nazis.

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    What do you expect from a party that has no power? Honestly Republicans should be more pissed off, they have all 3 branches of government and they’re doing symbolic bullshit with 0 chance of success to appeal to Trump specifically, and it’ll work because he never watched School House Rock. Not that I’m complaining.

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      Remember when the Democrats had a super majority and did literally fuck all with it? No abortion law, no privacy laws, literally fucking nothing? I do. Cause I remember being real excited they might actually do something and now I’m jaded because they fucking didn’t.

      Keep watching and you’ll be just as pissed at how much the Democrats insist on fucking kneecapping themselves at every available opportunity. I mean, Jesus. Christ. Kamala ran on building the fucking wall.

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        Remember when the Democrats had a super majority

        1979-81 is before my time. In 2021-23 Democrats had a majority in the house and a weak-as-possible majority in the senate (a supermajority is 60 votes, enough to break a filibuster) with only 50 votes*, with Kamala as a tiebreaker.

        In all practical terms though, that kind of majority is a Republican majority. In order to control the Senate at all (due to the fact that every state, even rural red states with less than a million people gets 2 votes), Democrats have to include people who are basically Republicans in their senate races, like Joe Manchin - a “Democrat” who refused to endorse Biden or Harris over Trump this last election. And that’s exactly why codifying Roe failed - Manchin said no.

        I’m not here to defend Democrats though. I think they should’ve kicked out Manchin a long time ago and stop hiding how broken the system is. But they’re not the problem, they’re just the insufficient cure. Republicans are the problem, fight them. If Democrats are too centrist, then the left should be primarying Republicans and attempting to make a hostile takeover of the party.

        *Technically even this was not a Democrat majority, as it included 2 independents - 1 was Bernie Sanders, the other was the more centrist Angus King

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    The right found themselves someone who champions their values in as much the same way as the left finds a champion in the Roosevelts.

    I think it’s pendulum swinging to the right in general as is nature of politics. Hopefully it won’t last long and someone doesn’t stick a knife to stop the pendulum swinging back. There is still plenty of hope considering that many Americans are still resisting. I don’t know who is who in both the Senate and the House, but I’m sure the Democrats will vote down the proposal to allow a third term to a president, and a Republican one at that.

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    The fact that people actually believe that this is all the democrats are currently doing clearly illustrates exactly why we had so many protest voters.

    It seems as if the far left won’t ever be convinced of anything unless it-

    A) Agrees with what they already believe
    B) Is in an easy-to-read meme format
    C) Comes from their communal clipboard of copypasta marxist rhetiric.

    I’m incredibly angry that trump won, but not at all surprised. These people make up not just a portion of our voting body, but also a huge portion of our NON-voting body.

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      The Democratic Party is in a timeloop for thirty years if they believe that courting centrists and right wing voters still work in the age of growing wealth inequality. Actually, forget that, the Democrats still want to court centrists and the right in order to send signal to the true rulers that are oligarchs, that they are just as right wing as the Republicans in order to keep receiving corporate donations and make money from stocks.

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      What are they doing? Wait I’ll do you one better. What else can they do, but re-evaluate what they’ve been doing?

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        Google “Democrats” then select the “News” tab. That’ll get you going in the right direction.

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            Would it be better If I put it in a meme that they were actually doing shit?

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              Well I won’t say they’re not doing anything. It’s their job, obviously they’re playing defense to Republican insanity. And re-evaluating what they’ve been doing thus far is not a bad thing to be doing by any means if they have any hope of winning next time around. But do you genuinely think they’re doing enough to protect their constituency? The underprivileged masses that entrusted their valuable vote to them?

              DEIA initiatives are being suspended, the military is posted up on the border, undocumented abuelitas are getting ICE’d and America has affirmed its role as a rogue element to its European allies by implying its willingness to annex Greenland. That’s just the first week of what the opposition has cooked up. Are you seeing resistance in equal amount?

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                Hey, if you have a fix, let them know! Because until you know how things work so well as to be able to legally undermine trump’s grifting and unconstitutional bullshit- maybe keep the accusations to a minimum.

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                  If I hire a lawyer to represent me in court and they ask me “Alright chief, got any idea how we’re gonna get you out of this mess?”, I probably hired a shitty layer, right? I’m not accusing anyone of anything, I’m merely stating that I’m not seeing much being done by them in response to trump doing the trump things he said he’d do a year or so ago.

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    I spend WAY too much time online and see all the stupid viral videos because of it, and I pay attention to politics a LOT more than the average American does getting their hour of news propaganda from billionaire-owned media each night from the TV and facebook posts from their bubble of “friends”.

    What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?

    Only 80 year old geriatric with dementia would consider that viral, wait.

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      What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?

      I’m pretty sure she’s being ironic. The giveaway is “very memorable” – if it really were memorable you wouldn’t say it that way.

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        It’s like when a videogame company shows. A graph of total accounts for a game instead of the actual revenue, because the revenue numbers are bad, and the only positive is the number of accounts

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    Can someone explain me what was the tuna melt moment? All I get is literal tuna sandwiches in the Google search

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      Yeah, if that’s the most viral they went in the last 5 years, they’re in trouble. I don’t remember anything like that happening either.

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        it was that time Biden walked into a Subway and said “you’re telling me a tuna melted this sandwhich?” and everyone laughed

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          Dear lord. I guess that explains everything about how the Democrats failed to win. They live in a different world.

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    Can’t someone make a new party that actually represents working class people and just get rid of Democrats? By many other countries politics, Democrats look more right than left

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      Democrats have political and financial capital, which tend to be powerful assets in running a successful campaign. Any new party needs to:

      1. Inform the general population that they exist
      2. Inform the general population what their platform is
      3. Persuade the general population that their platform is desirable
      4. Convince the general population that they’re capable of implementing their platform

      These are not trivial tasks, made more difficult without a track record or money.

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      We should do this with the sole intention of throwing a wrench into the process and making the Dems pay attention. With the distinct understanding that we should not allow it to divide the progressive vote under any circumstances.

      This is done all the time. Think the Tea Party or the Green Party etc. They’re just extensions of existing parties meant to bring attention to certain topics.

      The Right never hesitates to use this kind of tactic and we need to grow a spine and do it as well.

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      That’s the Green party, but you get yelled at when you even suggest voting for them, even in a non-swing state.

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    Alternative title: “What CNBC is reporting on vs What FOX News is reporting on”

    Correction: “vs What FOX News is tweeting about”

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    I’ve posted it before but the way to get “media attention” is to be controversial and a bit shameless

    Republicans are great at this. “Ban immigrants”, “all weapons should be permanently legal for everyone”, “ban abortion in all cases”, “ban gays”, these extreme messages are embraced by the party. Algorithms pick up on content that is engaged upon. People engage on this content regardless of their viewpoint. Even if you hate these views you are more likely to click and view out of rage, to comment your disbelief and to say “fuck this stupid bullshit”

    Democrats are terrible at this. They abhor the controversial messaging from the left. They embrace weak messaging that sinks like “maybe some mild economic reform”. They embrace weak counter messaging like “gay people are actually valid”, “abortion should be left alone”, “maybe regulate guns a little” and then it gets trampled by right wing commenters and voices.

    They need to embrace the right wing formula, frankly. “90% tax bracket for income over 10 million dollars”, “state funded abortion mills”, “ban all guns”, “mandatory lgbt education in public schools”, “death penalty for oligarchs”, etc. stop softening the message because you’re worried about alienating 4% of old white voters. It’s clearly not working

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      I agree to some extent. But you have to realize that it isn’t 4% of voters. Trump won ~77 million votes this election vs Kamala’s ~75 million. That’s incredibly close, mainly because she tried to pander to the majority.

      There’s nothing she could’ve really done much differently this cycle that would’ve clenched the election with 100% certainty. There were simply too many factors working against her, like the shitty economy and the GOP’s massive disinformation campaigns promising to turn everything around. A huge chunk of voters are already admitting how “shocked” they are with some of the shit Trump’s administration is doing. This is due to microtargeted advertising, meaning that the many voters get completely different political ads on social media that leave out their extremist positions. My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability, choosing to just provide blanketed campaign messaging that’s mainly the same for everyone.

      Sorry, got a bit rambly and off track there. I’m tired.

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        My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability.

        Or maybe it’s the fact that all social media platforms are in the hands of a few people who happened to stand in the front row during Trump’s inauguration.
        Dems don’t have the capability cause their enemies control the algorithms.

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          People like Zuckerberg only care about money and power. Meta will happily accept the DNC’s advertising money.

          That all being said, the DNC could’ve also outlawed political advertising on social media when they had the majority in the Senate and house years ago.

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            They support Trump cause his entire platform is “give billionaires free reign and no taxes”. They’ll never support Democrats over him, and never have.
            And outlawing political advertising (by private actors) on social media would have been reversed by the Supreme Court. Even before it was taken over by the right. It’s very clearly against the 1st amendment.

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    their ‘secret’, and it’s not really a secret…

    they’re loud. they scream lies all day, every day, without end.

    the counter would be to do the same, but telling the truth instead; calling out the bullshit the republicants shovel. all day, every day, without end.

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      No, you don’t call out their bullshit. That’s the trap. That lets them frame the entire conversation. You build a vision for the country that people can get behind. That’s the same thing the Republicans do, but with fear of the other.