• umbrella
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    were you talking about US prisions?

    or do you consider some of the service industry slave labor, which to be fair it is?

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      The post was about BYD vehicles, but I’m happy to discuss other instances where it’s relevant.

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    This thread has gone completely off the rails. Nobody is discussing whether the ban was deserved and instead there’s only insults to the op, or arguments on who’s worse USA or China. I’m locking this.

    Please stick to judging whether they’re mod action was deserved and not rehashing the talking points especially by flaming each other

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    If you can’t criticize the US, Russia, China, Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, and every major religion (the religion itself, not it’s followers), all in one go, you don’t have true freedom.

    Authority is inherently evil and should be scrutinized, regardless of which “side”.

    (Btw I don’t even interact with .ml except a few like c/privacy, also the c/news in lemmy.world also have obnoxious mods)

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      By separating the institution from its “faithful”, you risk deboning your own argument before it takes its first steps. Religion is an ancient method of control, and those within it are all peddlers of some form of its seed — unwitting, or no.

      No one should have to make excuses for Religion’s altogether insidious, pervasive, corruptive and vile existence. Kill every god, utterly. There is no heaven, and none of us get out of here alive. 😘

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      I have never seen critism of Hamas or Hezbollah being censored tbh

      Even US criticism is fine as long as we don’t criticize the owner class and their regime removed in government on teevee…

      There is a new privacy community on this server, help seed it.

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    On one hand, it’s ridiculous that campists just can’t accept any criticism of their “aes”. On the other hand, you don’t have to go to the every posts about something positive happening in this hell world to remind that they suck but if you do, I hope you also do the same about positive happenings in the USA and EU or you’re just a hypocrite.

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      If it happens in US it’s actually a privilege, not forced labor.

      Characterizing prison work as forced labor is wrongheaded, he said, because most inmates who qualify for paid work earn that classification based on positive credits for behavior. “In other words, it’s a privilege,” he said, better than some of the other alternatives behind bars.

      -Shawn Bushway, RAND Corporation

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          The US actually has a higher prison population than China, both per capita and total despite having a fraction of Chinas population. I’m not in favor of forced labor or the carceral state in general.

          When it’s happening in the country I live in, it’s going to be a slightly higher priority for me.

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            The US actually has a higher prison population than China, both per capita and total despite having a fraction of Chinas population.

            This is only true if you exclude Xinjiang concentration camps though.

            But either way, it ain’t a competition both states run a degeranged penal systems albeit targeting different undesirables. China focused on wrong think, US goes for poors and/or minorities.

            The end goal is the same, keep the normie acting like a docile dog.

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            Whats the percentage of Chinas pop that are prison workers, disclosed and undisclosed?

            If you’re in the US why are you on .ml?

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                  Not interested answering rhetorical questions, do your own research and present it.

                  also I use she/her not it tyyy

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        The US has the largest prison population in the world and when measured per capita stands alone as a completely absurd outlier. A country that has legalized slavery if used as punishment for a crime. A country that has private prisons where the prisoners are used to make consumer goods, fight forest fires, and in some cases even work on farms classico style. There’s no probably about it at all - the US facilitates enourmous amounts of slave labor and that’s not even getting into the resource extraction from the global south that keeps the whole machine running.

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    Facts are bigotry

    There’s no facts in deleted post and on my guess there’s no bigotry, it mostly looks like trolling or disinformation.

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    its ml, any criticism of china will be censored

    being banned there and .world news and politics subs is just normal part of any self respecting shit posters fedi career.

    freedom enjoyers setting more communities on smaller servers as we speak. seek them out!

    ml and world control too many big subs and they use them to censor opinions that dont fit their propaganda.

    this sub exposes how pervasive mod miscondcut is, now we know, time to decentralized. let them keeo their echo chambers