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    7 hours ago

    Yeah, the non aggression pact, trying to save what was left of Poland. (Guess where the Jewish people fled?) Its not like it was the only country(which unlike others, had reasons, tsarist regime and the civil war are not great for neither the army nor people) which was wishing to isolate itself from expanding Nazi Germany, not like US was neutral(and the businesses were allied) regarding Nazi Germany till last moment. And no, Germany did not pay a heavy price, just the rhetoric about Muslims in the German politics today can say that.

    Also, I would like to mention, the fight against Fascism was done by the SOVIET PEOPLE, not only by Russians (my human waves!!!), this alone says a lot about your knowledge of history…

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      5 hours ago

      As I said in another thread: the Nazis absolutely paid the price - they were subjected to war crimes trials, had their regime disassembled, and their country carved up and occupied by the allied powers for decades. How is that not a heavy price?

      Meanwhile the USSR was subjected to nothing of the sort - it was actually the opposite, they were allowed to keep and drain the resources of all their conquored territories (even those unrelated to the Nazi regime).

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        2 hours ago

        True, but also the allies decided that war reparations had been a bad idea that helped the rise of the Nazis and instead of trying to extract a monetary penalty, they decided that investing in and supporting West Germany was the best plan for peace and international harmony. They were right, but it didn’t half make West Germany an economic powerhouse of Europe, especially because they didn’t spend any government money on the military because they weren’t allowed to have one.

        Meanwhile the USSR faced economic sanctions.

        So yes, absolutely you’re right about Germany, but it’s more than a little bit imbalanced to suggest that the second half of the twentieth century was characterised by sweetness and light towards the USSR hand brutal repression of Germany. It wasn’t like that at all.

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      6 hours ago

      Also, Britain and France signed a non-agression pact with the Nazis too, and not only that, they sold out Czechoslovakia (who they were allied to) in exchange! Meanwhile, the Soviets had previously sought agreements with them against the Nazis which were rejected.