• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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    13 hours ago

    65,000,000 eligible voters don’t vote. Should have fought harder to get those butts off the couch to vote than just “but Trump”. If you don’t excite the base, they’re not going to go out and vote.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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      4 hours ago

      I feel like if we were in a horror movie, and I told you Michael Myers was coming to kill us, you would have just sat there telling me you’re tired and I need a reason for you to get up beyond “but Michael”

      • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 hours ago

        So was appealing to right wing voters and alienating huge portions of the populations. In fact the Democratic Party took a LOT more ‘actions’ to lose this election than the people who stayed home did. Put your anger where it belongs for fucks sake.

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          3 hours ago

          Look at the dislikes, democrat supporters always double-down on their denial

          At this point they deserve to lose

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          6 hours ago

          Any US citizen who was ok with Trump winning probably isn’t left wing.

          Anyone left-wing US citizen who wasn’t ok with Trump winning but didn’t vote (assuming their vote mattered) is probably misguided at best.

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            6 hours ago

            You people are literally hopeless. Keep attacking your fellow people and never hold your politicians accountable. Thats working out great.

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              Can’t both be criticized? I’m mad at people so disconnected they don’t care to vote for a Capitolistic oligarchy over a Fascist oligarchy just like I’m mad at the Capitolistic oligarchy for not being better at understanding/representing the voter base. You call for unity about party reform and then use phrases like, “you people are literally helpless.” It comes across as very hippocritical.

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      11 hours ago

      Preventing fascism isn’t exciting. It’s a necessity. It’s the civic equivalent of brushing your teeth.

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        11 hours ago

        Yeah that doesn’t work. Making that argument again and again and not responding to the above critique is why Trump won.

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            Or here me out, they saw both sides as moraly reprehensable, not neccisarily equaly so, but enough that they would not be able to sleep at night giving either of them their vote, and tasid suport for what they are doing. As much as people here like to claim your really voting aganst the other guy, the vote is still for one side.

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      11 hours ago

      Biden hopefully will be the last “must secure the center” democrat. The winner in American elections is the one that has their base turn out more. If you do things to appease the center at the expense of the base, expect to loose.

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        5 hours ago

        Considering there’s no one from any left aligned party holding district wide, state wide or better. This comment is at best delusional.

        If us leftists were the panacea many like to paint us as. We’d already be holding more offices than we do. Regardless of the NeOlIBeRaLs!

        I think they’d do well to move more leftward. Benefitting the common man. Marginalizing any sort of economic liberal. But a lot is going to have to happen before that. And even then we will still need them more than they need us. Because honestly what’s the left’s excuse otherwise? We could if we wanted to, and oh you wouldn’t know our voters. She lives in Canada?

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          Oh it’s a joy to see a smart leftist, I know it’s not much but You give me a tiny bit of hope

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      13 hours ago

      Maybe this needed to happen as a matter of karma and punishment, for complacency and stupidity. Its just a sin others have to suffer for morons who dont know any better.

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        4 hours ago

        I doubt it as I’m gonna be punished for this even though I did everything I was supposed to.

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        10 hours ago

        It already happened in 2016 though.

        People are crazy if they think this will be the time the Dems learn their lesson. They haven’t learned it for decades.q

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          no joke, I’d take the last time any day of the fucking week, the world is infinitely worse position for a manchild and an entourage of tech fascists to be taking power, we’re essentially already in the opening stage of WW3 because of Putin’s fantasies.

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              too late to solve the problems by legal means, sure.

              but if they make a move on anyone, like for real. there’s gonna be bodies on both sides. they aren’t the only ones with weapons. and worse for them, they’ve convinced some people they have nothing to lose now.

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      11 hours ago

      Well they can be excited about the new gender options now