I get what you’re saying, but by the same logic, anything that encourages adoption of EVs (or continued use of petrol/diesel vehicles) is bad because it ultimately encourages less people to just use PT
I’m not necessarily encouraging adoption of EV’s but I’m definitely against making petrol cars cheaper to run… although I do argue for far cheaper electricity rates which will increase EV adoption and ultimately reduce co2 which is my ultimate goal
I’m also not 100% sure encouraging people to use PT has any effect, people use cars because they allow you to go to anywhere you want at any time of the day or night or public holidays or unions in sydney striking etc right from your front door, PT cannot compete with this especially in Australia where everything is so far apart
You can encourage it but I think there are limits on how far it can go without changing our cities completely around and by that point there’s not much need to encourage, people will give up their cars ev or ice willingly
Yeah, I do agree. That’s not really my stance, but just following the logic, it doesn’t make a lot of sense
The PT argument is a whole other kettle of fish, and there’ll always be a need for private cars in the society we live in, but the argument could definitely be made that if we didn’t encourage adoption of EVs, or continued use of ICE vehicles, and actively disincentivised driving, more people might cycle, walk, and catch PT around
I don’t see any mass migration to PT without the infra changes along with it, Brisbane doesn’t even have a cheap train to the airport and when I have to catch a train to the city for work my trip time doubles compared to my motorbike and I still have to use my car to get to the station… and that’s assuming I’m not 1 minute late and miss the train so then you have to add another 30 minute wait in :( … but at least we are getting some improvements with cross river rail.
At the moment the best bet that I can see to reduce co2 emissions is to encourage EV adoption because at least it is something familiar to people and until the infra changes required to make the place a ‘15 minute city’ come along it’s the best chance we have to reduce co2.
This doesn’t sound like a problem with PT -per se-, it sounds more like a problem with PT infrastructure
Melbourne doesn’t have a train to the Airport either (currently) and all attempts are receiving severe political roadblocks.
Melbourne does have regular radial public transport to the CBD during peak times and the potential to have regular public transport during regular times.
Melbourne does need more connective public transport, we do have an adequate bus network, but due to congestion, it is unreliable during peak traffic times.
The Suburban Rail Loop (if it gets finished before the next change of government) will be a good start, but more outer suburban lines (Frankston-Dandenong-Ringwood) would also be of benefit.
Just remember, when you are stuck in traffic, you are the traffic that you are stuck in.
I’m not necessarily encouraging adoption of EV’s but I’m definitely against making petrol cars cheaper to run… although I do argue for far cheaper electricity rates which will increase EV adoption and ultimately reduce co2 which is my ultimate goal
I’m also not 100% sure encouraging people to use PT has any effect, people use cars because they allow you to go to anywhere you want at any time of the day or night or public holidays or unions in sydney striking etc right from your front door, PT cannot compete with this especially in Australia where everything is so far apart
You can encourage it but I think there are limits on how far it can go without changing our cities completely around and by that point there’s not much need to encourage, people will give up their cars ev or ice willingly
Yeah, I do agree. That’s not really my stance, but just following the logic, it doesn’t make a lot of sense
The PT argument is a whole other kettle of fish, and there’ll always be a need for private cars in the society we live in, but the argument could definitely be made that if we didn’t encourage adoption of EVs, or continued use of ICE vehicles, and actively disincentivised driving, more people might cycle, walk, and catch PT around
I don’t see any mass migration to PT without the infra changes along with it, Brisbane doesn’t even have a cheap train to the airport and when I have to catch a train to the city for work my trip time doubles compared to my motorbike and I still have to use my car to get to the station… and that’s assuming I’m not 1 minute late and miss the train so then you have to add another 30 minute wait in :( … but at least we are getting some improvements with cross river rail.
At the moment the best bet that I can see to reduce co2 emissions is to encourage EV adoption because at least it is something familiar to people and until the infra changes required to make the place a ‘15 minute city’ come along it’s the best chance we have to reduce co2.
This doesn’t sound like a problem with PT -per se-, it sounds more like a problem with PT infrastructure Melbourne doesn’t have a train to the Airport either (currently) and all attempts are receiving severe political roadblocks.
Melbourne does have regular radial public transport to the CBD during peak times and the potential to have regular public transport during regular times.
Melbourne does need more connective public transport, we do have an adequate bus network, but due to congestion, it is unreliable during peak traffic times. The Suburban Rail Loop (if it gets finished before the next change of government) will be a good start, but more outer suburban lines (Frankston-Dandenong-Ringwood) would also be of benefit.
Just remember, when you are stuck in traffic, you are the traffic that you are stuck in.