Hop in, comrades, we are reading Capital Volumes I-III this year, and we will every year until Communism is achieved. (Volume IV, often published under the title Theories of Surplus Value, will not be included, but comrades are welcome to set up other bookclubs.) This works out to about 6½ pages a day for a year, 46 pages a week.

I’ll post the readings at the start of each week and @mention anybody interested. Let me know if you want to be added or removed.

Congratulations to those who’ve made it this far! We are almost finished the first three chapters, which are said to be the hardest. If you made it through with us now, it’s extremely likely that you’ll stick the rest out. Let’s keep it up! Proud of y’all!

Week 3, Jan 15-21, we are reading Volume 1, Chapter 3 Section 3, Chapter 4, and Chapter 5.

Discuss the week’s reading in the comments.

Use any translation/edition you like. Marxists.org has the Moore and Aveling translation in various file formats including epub and PDF: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

Ben Fowkes translation, PDF: https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=AA342398FDEC44DFA0E732357783FD48

(Unsure about the quality of the Reitter translation, I’d love to see some input on it as it’s the newest one)

AernaLingus says: I noticed that the linked copy of the Fowkes translation doesn’t have bookmarks, so I took the liberty of adding them myself. You can either download my version with the bookmarks added or if you’re a bit paranoid (can’t blame ya) and don’t mind some light command line work you can use the same simple script that I did with my formatted plaintext bookmarks to take the PDF from libgen and add the bookmarks yourself. Also, please let me know if you spot any errors with the bookmarks so I can fix them!


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  • Sebrof [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Chapter 3, though, that’s a lot to digest. I think my brain has some sort of block where it freaks out about money, and I just expect that I can’t understand it. But, overall it wasn’t too bad. A lot of information, though. And I would like to hear what others, especially those fond of MMT, would say about Chapter 3. I feel as if I have these two “competing” ideas about money floating in my head. On one side, we have this Graber-esque/MMT idea of debt arising first, and money coming out by taxes of the state. And on the other side, there is a Marxist critique (along the lines of the Michael Roberts article I shared) that is closer to the ideas in Chapter 3.

    Along the lines of these critiques, money still must have value and MMT throws out too much of the theory of value. The state can’t set the prices through taxation, because prices are “an exponent of value,” the “money-name of the labor objectified in a commodity” (Marx) and value isn’t something subjective and controllable by our wills - it has an objective existence. A state can set the standard of price, I suppose, but not prices, not the measure of value?

    Marx actually seems to throw some critiques at these proto-Chartalist, proto-MMT theories of money, and there is a good section on paper money that I’ll need to go back to. This is a section before part 3 of Chapter 3, so it may be best to discuss it in the previous thread. Essentially, Marx critiques this idea that because the money commodity can be replaced by symbols (paper money) in circulation it implies that it is superfluous as a measure of value.

    Marx also mentions that paper money can be thrown into circulation and act effectively only if the issuance of paper money is restricted to the quantity of gold which would have been in circulation, and “only insofar as paper money represents gold, which like all commodities has value, is it a symbol of value.”

    I’d be interested in hearing how, or if, the present American dollar works under this framework Marx presents.

    Going on a bit about paper money, Anwar Shaikh in his book Capitalism has a whole chapter about money, and goes through the history of how tokens and paper money came about in England and in Massachusetts through further and further abstractions of gold commodity money. People used gold and when they deposited their gold to banks and goldsmiths and got receipts, then these receipts became banknotes and served as paper money, etc.

    The vibe I got form Shaikh is that these “abstract” versions of money are like a network or spider’s web that sprawls out from the original use of gold. And as long as there is no crisis these “abstractions” or “symbols” work as money in the local economy’s circulation. But when crises hit the more abstract versions of money are the first to fall, and the network starts to “collapse”. People want more “real” money during the crisis, so they dump their local bank’s deposits to get the city bank’s deposits, and they may further dump those to get their original gold back.

    Eventually, gold as the measure of value reasserts itself. And again, I wonder about how this plays out in our world today.

    • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      My opinion is that fiat money can and does do its own thing, but within certain bounds that are enforced by the law of value. Money, even by fiat, must in the last resort always point to actual value, a real commodity with embodied labor. Otherwise it cannot function as a store of value and the economy collapses. However, there is a non-trivial span of time in which this detachment can exist before a crisis. So in this span of time, the ruling class gets to set in motion more capital than really exists as money. Money becomes more and more credit money, ie expected future money. Money in hand right now is therefore temporally linked to future production and earns its character of “burning a hole in one’s pocket.” Modern monetary policy exists in that squishy, speculative space of expected future value production. Therefore money (and the economy as a whole) must always grow exponentially lest a crisis occur.

      • Sebrof [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I like that explanation, and this liminal gap in time where paper money can expand and be detached is what I had in mind when I was reading what Shaikh had to say about the history of paper money. And I also read that into what Marx, or was it Kozlov?, that said that paper money mist refer to gold for value in the final analysis.

        So I like the explanation you gave. That’s my working theory I’ll use in the meantime. And from what I remember reading about Roberts’ critique of MMT he agrees that paper money is still bounded by the law of value. I’ll need to read it again to double check though

        Thanks!