If paying doesn’t prevent ads, how does your suggestion help?
I’m not sure it makes sense to talk about any specific platform since multiple are starting to introduce this, and more will follow. But if you’d like we could go with Amazon Prime Video. Why are they showing me ads, even though I’m paying for the service?
Ah, so I should pay for the content, but since that’s not enough I should boycott and not consume media.
Or we can recognize that individual user action doesn’t help and regulate ads, because as I said, it’s not just Amazon that’s trying to squeeze every cent possible. It’s every company. Netflix has ad-supported plans (and is phasing others out), YouTube still shows some ads with Premium, …
You said it, ad-supported. Pay a little and watch ads, or pay more and don’t watch ads. Prime apparently doesn’t offer the second option.
Translated to American: Costco charges a membership and Walmart doesn’t. You still have to pay for the groceries either way. You don’t like the membership? Shop at Walmart.
Sigh… I specifically didn’t bring examples because it was obvious you’d pull this.
These services used to not be ad-supported at all. Amazon Prime Video used to be ad-free. Netflix used to not have an ad-supported plan. YouTube probably was always shit enough to show ads with Premium, don’t know about that. But it’s neither a coincidence nor an accident that prices keep rising AND ads are being introduced. It will happen to all the other services too.
Translated to capitalist bootlicker: All companies are enshittifying their services. You can’t escape it unless you boycott everything. It’s not a company-specific issue.
And, as a German, let me tell you a hearty “fuck off” with whatever superiority complex you’re trying to show off.
I didn’t want to bring examples because you’re obviously more interested in pointing at specifics of the current state while completely ignoring the larger picture.
“Oh, Netflix is introducing ad-supported plans and phasing out ad-free plans? But you can still use the ad-free ones while they exist! Oh, Amazon Prime Video has ads for paid plans? But you can still boycott them!”
You’re behaving like a conservative screaming “See? WINTER IS COLDER THAN LAST YEAR!”. We both know that they’ll continue to enshittify their services, both by increasing prices and by introducing ads (and making them more expensive/impossible to ignore). Why are you acting like this isn’t this the case?
Most services have ad-free plans. YouTube, Disney+, Netflix, Spotify… I don’t know any others to be honest, I guess HBO has something? . Prime seems to be the only one to not have an ad-free plan (haven’t checked tho).
And they are slowly but surely going away. Is this really such a hard concept to grasp?
Netflix for example recently removed the basic plan in Germany, you now either choose the ad-supported (cheaper) plan or the very expensive one. Other services are making similar moves. They are increasing the prices of ad-free tiers to ridiculous levels and will be increasing ads on all tiers over time as well as prices.
If paying doesn’t prevent ads, how does your suggestion help?
I’m not sure it makes sense to talk about any specific platform since multiple are starting to introduce this, and more will follow. But if you’d like we could go with Amazon Prime Video. Why are they showing me ads, even though I’m paying for the service?
They are trying to squeeze every cent possible, in typical Amazon fashion. If you don’t like, speak with your wallet and cancel the subscription.
Ah, so I should pay for the content, but since that’s not enough I should boycott and not consume media.
Or we can recognize that individual user action doesn’t help and regulate ads, because as I said, it’s not just Amazon that’s trying to squeeze every cent possible. It’s every company. Netflix has ad-supported plans (and is phasing others out), YouTube still shows some ads with Premium, …
It’s not just one company, it’s all companies.
You said it, ad-supported. Pay a little and watch ads, or pay more and don’t watch ads. Prime apparently doesn’t offer the second option.
Translated to American: Costco charges a membership and Walmart doesn’t. You still have to pay for the groceries either way. You don’t like the membership? Shop at Walmart.
Sigh… I specifically didn’t bring examples because it was obvious you’d pull this.
These services used to not be ad-supported at all. Amazon Prime Video used to be ad-free. Netflix used to not have an ad-supported plan. YouTube probably was always shit enough to show ads with Premium, don’t know about that. But it’s neither a coincidence nor an accident that prices keep rising AND ads are being introduced. It will happen to all the other services too.
Translated to capitalist bootlicker: All companies are enshittifying their services. You can’t escape it unless you boycott everything. It’s not a company-specific issue.
And, as a German, let me tell you a hearty “fuck off” with whatever superiority complex you’re trying to show off.
So you didn’t want to bring examples because you were afraid of being proven wrong? At least you’re self aware…
I didn’t want to bring examples because you’re obviously more interested in pointing at specifics of the current state while completely ignoring the larger picture.
“Oh, Netflix is introducing ad-supported plans and phasing out ad-free plans? But you can still use the ad-free ones while they exist! Oh, Amazon Prime Video has ads for paid plans? But you can still boycott them!”
You’re behaving like a conservative screaming “See? WINTER IS COLDER THAN LAST YEAR!”. We both know that they’ll continue to enshittify their services, both by increasing prices and by introducing ads (and making them more expensive/impossible to ignore). Why are you acting like this isn’t this the case?
Most services have ad-free plans. YouTube, Disney+, Netflix, Spotify… I don’t know any others to be honest, I guess HBO has something? . Prime seems to be the only one to not have an ad-free plan (haven’t checked tho).
And they are slowly but surely going away. Is this really such a hard concept to grasp?
Netflix for example recently removed the basic plan in Germany, you now either choose the ad-supported (cheaper) plan or the very expensive one. Other services are making similar moves. They are increasing the prices of ad-free tiers to ridiculous levels and will be increasing ads on all tiers over time as well as prices.
Which part do you not understand?