All hope for humanity rests on Fury's shoulders.
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S01E06: Home July 26th, 2023 on Disney+ 37m None
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    So, can we talk about how the show just injected an incredibly overpowered character into the MCU in the last half of an episode of a series that not many people are watching?

    Or how Fury’s plan was to give the uber-mcguffin to someone else to give to the bad guy in the hopes that she could get super powered along with him and proceed to kill him on equal footing?

    I wanted to like this show, but damn. Fury was a way better character before this started.

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        Man, Secret War with Nick Fury sending heroes (or in this case maybe skrulls) to infiltrate Latveria against diplomatic policy (maybe as a home on earth instead of suspicion of doom), and it being revealed that Nick had done this AND mind wiped his insurgents. All as a means to introduce DOOM. That would have been an INFINITELY better Bendis script to adapt to this show… Now I’m sad that I’ve had this thought.

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        The comics have the benefit of having waaaay more opportunities to address loose ends than the MCU

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            It is. And other than Samuel L Jackson you won’t see any crossover cast from this show. Not even the ultra powerful being with all of Carol Danvers powes they just left in London. Because why would you? It’s the Marvel’s movie not Fury’s.

            Not sure how they’re going to hand wave that, since the whole movie is based on their powers being tied together. Why isn’t Emilia Clarke being teleported around too?

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    That was a complete waste of time and I’m pretty sure there’s a better way to set the world on fire. This was the one series that I was looking forward to and I must say was truly a disappointment. The last two episodes should’ve been released as one, though not sure it would’ve been better. The writing was lazy throughout and all over the place, I mean who the hell leaves cliffhangers using a death of a major character almost every episode? Who the hell at Marvel Studios vetted the scripts?

    How does this tie into the Multiverse?!!

    The only positive is Sonya Falsworth, and I’m just praying some other show or film will come along to use this character properly.

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      Absolute same, I had such high hopes for this series and it was just a steaming pile of dogs hit. Agree on Farnsworth, the only saving grace of the series, she stole every scene she was in. Everything else has just been so scatter-brained about this series, just things happening for no purpose other than to setup the next thing happening, without any regard to logic. I can’t decide if this was worse than Game of Thrones season 8. Everything felt so stupid and I had to force myself through every episode, just cringing the whole time. So glad it’s over and I can just cancel my D+ subscription now.

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    So why did none of the stored prisoners suffer any radiation damage? They were just lead out in the open there and some of them were kept there a long time.

    Aside from that the rest of it was just bad.

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    This was the first Marvel show that I disliked. Everything was so uninteresting and poorly done. That final Super Skrull battle was one of the worst fights in the MCU. They should’ve never compared this to Winter Soldier because it was far from it. Only good thing I can say about this show is how Sam Jackson managed to have a few good acting scenes with terrible scripts.

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      The bones of it were good. It was just so, so underbaked and half-assed. Like everything else, that big fight could have been great with just a few adjustments. Imagine if G’iah found him in the facility and secretly freed him, and he calls in the suit to even the odds just as Gravik looks about to win? Instead it’s a quick battle with no well-defined stakes, that nobody sees.

      The reveal that Ritson is a genocidal douche canoe could have been dropped earlier, giving Fury some conflict in whether he actually wants to save him or help him.

      The confrontation between Gravik and Fury was really compelling, but again, it happened far too late to make any difference. Almost everything in this episode should have happened in episode 1, and then we could be playing out the consequences of it. Instead it’s five episodes of buildup to a nothingburger, with the implications of major consequences we don’t get to see until - when? The Marvels? Unlikely. Brave New World? Maybe, but then why bother with this series at all? Just for a prologue to a big movie? What’s the actual story here?

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      The only upside I see to President Rittson’s misoxenistic (edit: how do you construct the word for ‘fear of extra-terrestrials’? this one seems to mean fear of strangers) response is that I feel like it really primes the stage for a natural progression into a fear of mutants that’ve suddenly started springing up. If you were a normal human and someone close to you seemingly “lost control” and “let their powers slip”, and you’d seen the footage of Skrulls (and maybe some out-of-focus footage of a Super-Skrull), wouldn’t you feel completely justified in indulging your xenophobia?

      In reality, the Skrull letting their powers slip would just be an instance of a young teen manifesting powers they don’t know how to control. Powers manifest in high-stress situations near the onset of puberty, iirc.

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    Marvel has been really missing the mark on their television shows and many of the recent movies. They really need to take some time and reevaluate before damaging the brand. I don’t believe in super hero fatigue but I do believe in bad content fatigue.

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    The show feels like it’s…half done. Like the Secret Invasion is basically just about 1 Skrull who wants war? It’s supposed to be invasion in our whole lives right? How about all the Skrulls who’ve been in society and high in government? Was that not the invasion that we were supposed to watch? Who cares about this Gravik guy really…

    I don’t understand Ritson’s response at the end. War…against aliens on earth? Shouldn’t people be somewhat comfortable by now with aliens on earth? Are they gonna try to kill Thor next time he’s on earth? And he says “we know how to find you” even though they really don’t? The only thing that I thought might make sense is if he’s also a Skrull somehow but is he just another dumbass human president? And Fury fucks off back to space when the war is started by humans now? As long as it’s not a Skrull starting it I guess a war is fine…

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      They threw together so many different plot elements like super skrulls and Fury’s wife and outer planet politics and the history of skrulls and being a spy genre and fury being old and on and on

      Too much stuff, not enough time to let any of it work together. Now we have a new world war starting, an interplanetary peace summit, SABER, and a new ultra super powerful being. That’s so much world altering stuff. Will any of it be addressed in the next movies?

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        That’s so much world altering stuff.

        Yeah that’s how I felt too. There’s so much but the whole show seems to be focusing on just 1 small part of it, and it feels like at the end they resolved nothing.

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          Remember the giant statue of a being appearing in the ocean? Or the equally giant figure who appeared briefly over London? That’s just one movie and they’ve never addressed it again.

          • canthidium@lemmy.worldOP
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            There’s a rumor going around that the celestial in the ocean from Eternals is going to be a plot point in Captain America: New World Order, but who knows.

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              At this point my working hypothesis for explaining why these catastrophic events keep getting ignored is that the Eternals etc all happened in an alternate universes.

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      I was so surprised that there wasn’t a reveal after Ritson’s speech that he was actually a skrull and that he was purposely ruining any chance of peace to continue Gravik’s crusade. But no, just terrible writing and inexplicable character choices.

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    The editing in the scene where “Fury” meets Gravik is really bad…

    I tried really hard to like this show and I’m really only coming up with, “enh, it’s ok.”

    I am glad that it didn’t end on, “No more Skrulls! Fury pulled it off all by himself!”

    Will the Skrull problem be acknowledged anywhere else?

    There’s too many dangling threads right now and I don’t see how they’re going to pull them all together. I hope they do though.

    I feel like Marvel’s spread themselves too thin. I’m still enjoying the ride for the most part, but the quality just isn’t what it used to be. I believe this to be the result of Disney needing to push out content for Disney+. Hopefully they slow it down and the quality comes back.

    A season 2 of this show could still have a lot of potential.

    I hope Rhodey looses more body parts and the War Machine suit makes him a full-on cyborg like in that one comic run.

    There you go. That’s my attempt at positivity.

  • canthidium@lemmy.worldOP
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    Well that was…something. Felt so rushed. That super Skrull fight was just a mess. Why is there never any Secret Service or any staff besides Rhodey around the president? He seems like he could be killed any time. And I guess Secret Wars is kicked off because the president said he will kill every Skrull. Like, that’s it? This is how Secret Wars gets started? Just feels silly and basic. At this point I’m only watching these shows so I know the setup for the upcoming movies. Very underwhelming and disappointing.

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      I never got passed ep 2 but this doesn’t fill me with confidence in watching the rest. Why does everything marvel make now have to be a big nothing burger?

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          It’s not like it’s a big investment. Six 30-minute episodes? This should have been a two- or three-part Marvel Special Presentation, released all in one go and done with. Either that or give it full episode lengths and some writers who can actually grapple with a compelling espionage narrative. Instead it got a weird middle ground that just felt crippled from the start.

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        I actually partially enjoyed it, watching Fury / Talos, or fury / wifey chatting was good. But it doesn’t really go anywhere, and the central conflict is kinda pointless, so meh. But as background tv with low expectations, sure!

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    G’iah’s greatest superpower is her ability to regenerate that amazing leather jacket after she’s shredded the sleeves with her Hulk/Drax/Corvus/Groot arms.

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        Yeah, Skrulls are actually naked all the time. Now I’m trying to remember if Priscilla’s clothes changed with her in that last scene… it would make sense for her to be dressed because she’s not trying to do espionage stuff.

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      Haha. Also, seems like those relieved from pods have somehow grown anti-radiation powers?

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        Maybe the Skrulls have some way of blocking the radiation. It wouldn’t do for their victims to melt just when they needed to do a mental download to maintain their cover.

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    I think the biggest mistake the show did was making it so clear who’s a Skrull and who’s real so early on. A secret invasion like this needs paranoia and hopelessness and I just didn’t feel that.

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      Yup, I like a lot of the performances in this show (a testament to the quality of actors that marvel has been able to pull in to these things) but the overall plotting, themes and structure was a complete mess.

      Shape-shifting skulls! Exciting! But we’ll almost never use this!

      They can be anyone they want! But they’ll just keep to the same form 99% of the time for vague reasons!

      No-one knows who to trust But they they’ll make no effort to try and figure who’s a skrull even once they know that their blood is a different colour. But that’s fine, because the skrulls won’t try and trick anyone too much.

      Total waste of a premise.

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        They can be anyone they want! But they’ll just keep to the same form 99% of the time for vague reasons!

        Exactly! They should have been changing into different people all the time. Even within the Skrulls. Like I feel like Gravik should have been spying on his people in different forms, he obviously didn’t trust them all. Terminator 2 had more suspense and paranoia with just 1 shapeshifter.

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    Samuel made $20 m for that? I would have given back $10 m and personally fund a better production