Everybody laughed when China put cameras everywhere and gave their citizens a social score to maintain. It’s coming here. The bill of rights have no power when the ruling party chooses to ignore them.
My favorite part of the Palantir story is that everyone who gets to use it, without exception, immediately uses it to monitor their coworkers, family and ex partners.
And how you live. Good luck getting out of poverty with a terrible credit score, that you probably got because you were poor to begin with and living is expensive. Can’t get a loan to buy a car to drive to a better job, and can’t buy a house to build your assets and are instead forced to piss it away to a landlord in order to build their assets. That alone limits your employment opportunities and is an active drain on the amount of money you are able to save up, which compounds over time and creates societal castes of sorts - those who can accumulate capital and those who exist to serve them. And sure you can live on scraps for a decade and probably fight your way up as you crawl out of it, but it’s the fact that so many are forced to live like this that makes it crazy to believe that credit score isn’t already a social credit system.
Why do you think China has a social score? If you look up information on it, you find many scores / systems for different domains. Or how national policy and local policy can be different or at odds. You see China announced it in 2014 and barely put out a draft in 2023. The “trustworthy” score is tied to fraud, cheating people, selling counterfeits, etc. One local government is apparently trying to tie blood donation to financial breaks. Like giving you a tax break. Just an example of how the national policy can be interpreted and used in practice.
The idea of our governments scoring us for every little tic is scary, but the danger of overreach is different than “in China, your social score goes down for not smiling.” What exactly are people referring to?
It’s weird, China has giant reeducation camps where they imprison over a million Uyghurs / Muslims… you know, the asocials. The huge crowds of people being held on their knees with bags on their heads should have stuck in people’s minds.
And then there’s misinformation about some national social credit score.
I bet everyone hears people bring up the latter way more than the former.
Everybody laughed when China put cameras everywhere and gave their citizens a social score to maintain. It’s coming here. The bill of rights have no power when the ruling party chooses to ignore them.
It’s been here, trumps original supporter peter tiel created palantir back when still working at paypal
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
My favorite part of the Palantir story is that everyone who gets to use it, without exception, immediately uses it to monitor their coworkers, family and ex partners.
What do you think a credit score is exactly
It’s measures your compliance with the banking industry. No bearing on how well you treat others.
It is used to vet where you’re allowed to live.
And how you live. Good luck getting out of poverty with a terrible credit score, that you probably got because you were poor to begin with and living is expensive. Can’t get a loan to buy a car to drive to a better job, and can’t buy a house to build your assets and are instead forced to piss it away to a landlord in order to build their assets. That alone limits your employment opportunities and is an active drain on the amount of money you are able to save up, which compounds over time and creates societal castes of sorts - those who can accumulate capital and those who exist to serve them. And sure you can live on scraps for a decade and probably fight your way up as you crawl out of it, but it’s the fact that so many are forced to live like this that makes it crazy to believe that credit score isn’t already a social credit system.
Credit score doesn’t care if you’re buying Bad Dragon dildos, just that you pay for them.
Credit score doesn’t care if you want a lifted Cummins diesel or a Smart Fortwo, just that you pay for it.
On the flip side, social credit cares if you use your blinker or not… So, which one is worse?
They both are but let’s move past that.
That’s where it started, but a social score can ding you for not smiling while crossing the street.
Why do you think China has a social score? If you look up information on it, you find many scores / systems for different domains. Or how national policy and local policy can be different or at odds. You see China announced it in 2014 and barely put out a draft in 2023. The “trustworthy” score is tied to fraud, cheating people, selling counterfeits, etc. One local government is apparently trying to tie blood donation to financial breaks. Like giving you a tax break. Just an example of how the national policy can be interpreted and used in practice.
The idea of our governments scoring us for every little tic is scary, but the danger of overreach is different than “in China, your social score goes down for not smiling.” What exactly are people referring to?
lmao downvoted for giving details on how their social credit score works, when you’re not even saying ‘china good’.
It’s weird, China has giant reeducation camps where they imprison over a million Uyghurs / Muslims… you know, the asocials. The huge crowds of people being held on their knees with bags on their heads should have stuck in people’s minds.
And then there’s misinformation about some national social credit score.
I bet everyone hears people bring up the latter way more than the former.