• cqst [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 days ago

        The USSR had a democracy and many democratic elections. It was just not a liberal democracy. The USSR had a welfare state, and so was a social democracy.

          • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            6 days ago

            Ok, now look at america and think really critically about what you just said.

            Sure, there is a red party and a blue party. Sure, they have some differences socially. But economically and foreign policy wise they are the same. Pro capitalist, pro imperialist, pro fascist, pro genocide, pro bombing the shit out of anyone who has natural resources they need for their donors, American business. Or regime changing them.

            They’re the same fucking party once you remove the culture war bullshit.

          • cqst [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            6 days ago

            Election where you can only vote for one party isn’t particularly democratic.

            Why not? You vote. Parties are just an abstraction.

            Neither is one with two parties, for that matter.

            The more parties it has the more democratic it is? Please. Even in countries with advanced proportional representation schemes, you instead just get huge party alliances based on regionalism, and guess what, they remain capitalist bourgeoisie dictatorships.

            The USSR was democratic, it was a capitalist democracy, like well, all modern democracies. Just because it came in a different form doesn’t make it somehow not democratic.

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              6 days ago

              Okay, that is actually a valid point. I guess my issue with Soviet elections wasn’t the one party system, but how that party was propped up to be the default and most people never bothered to vote against it.

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                6 days ago

                So your issue is not that it wasn’t democratic, you just disagree with who they chose to vote for.

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            6 days ago

            Yes, the only truly democratic elections are the ones that get the outcomes western liberals demand of them.