• usernamesAreTrickyOP
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        1 year ago

        In the mean time, there’s still plenty we can do today. If we do nothing but wait, harm will continue to be done

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        1 year ago

        Unfortunately, that may never become feasible.

        I’ve had the opportunity as an outsider to have a lot of involvement with pharm scalability research, and this video and the experts speaking on it match everything I’ve learned about their industry. Lab grown meat will take up far more space and resources than cell-grown meat, and will be far worse for the environment. Of real estimates, the numbers aren’t even close to pretend otherwise.

        And (paraphrasing the words of an actual CTO of one of those lab meat companies), efficiency is doomed to go DOWN if you scale up in any way except building more and more SMALL expensive and inefficient bioreactors.

        There’s a reason those processes never get cheap to manufacture in labs using the same processes to make life-saving medication. Lab meat doesn’t get the “life or death markup” a cancer drug would have, but it won’t be getting sold for below cost to get it down in the $10-20/lb range for low-end hamburger.

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      1 year ago

      If it’s about cruelty, it might be time to eat better meat. I eat all local and organic meat and produce. The cows I eat? I know the lives they live before slaughter and I feel no shame in supporting the farms that give them those lives.

      All it takes is more people fighting for better meat and the companies will oblige. They’ll come up with their own promises of humane treatment (with their own markups, I’m sure) and they will be able to be held to them even if they lie at first.

      The real problem isn’t eating meat, it’s eating McDonalds hamburgers not once caring where they came from or what’s in them.

      Again, just if it’s about cruelty and federal oversight of free range laws. If you just don’t want to eat meat, don’t eat meat (but watch your A, B12, Iron, Zinc, etc)