• purrtastic@lemmy.nz
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    14 hours ago

    Free will is a concept invented by St Augustine to get God off the hook for the garden of eden fiasco. There is nowhere in science that supports the notion of a self somehow separate from the causal nature of the universe.

    • yesman@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      The concept of free will is way older than Christianity. Even the story of the Garden predates Christ, as does the book of Job which addresses free will directly. And the concept of a “clockwork” universe is quite out of date too. Many phenomena are probabilistic while some phenomena have no cause at all (big bang).

      • JoYo 🇺🇸
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        11 hours ago

        st augustine didn’t even call it freewill, later catholic scholars came up with that bullshit.

      • Fuck spez@sh.itjust.works
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        13 hours ago

        For anyone who wants to support the author and doesn’t mind giving Google their cut, I just noticed it’s $2.99 right now on Play Books after promotional discounts. All 500+ pages. I bought it just now with Opinion Rewards credit that I earned by feeding Google junk data.

    • Funkytom467@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Based off science the notion of self itself is a mere illusion. Wich probably is cause to the one of free will.

      As for the causal nature of the universe, it’s one of the strong hypothesis, but we don’t have a definite proof for it.