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  • GizmoLion@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    Finally a voice of reason. I’m in the same boat. Linux everything, including any standalone products I can load it onto. I can count on one hand the number of non-linux programs I use. GIMP’s interface simply sucks. They know that, they’ve been given feedback since 1995, they just don’t care. @CrypticCoffee is in here acting like GIMP just needs some support from the community but the reality is that they’ve neglected decades of feedback and so they deserve what they get. If that’s negative feedback, then so be it!

    Blender’s UI used to be a dumpsterfire too, right on part with GIMP in my opinion. They straight up redesigned that shit from the ground up and now it’s an amazing and intuitive powerhouse program, and they’re 7 years younger!

    The fact that GIMP is 2d and blender is 3d works in gimp’s favor if anything. 2D is a whole lot simpler, and blender goes into animation, mixing, audio, dozens of specialities.

    TL;DR, GIMP has had decades to improve, they don’t, and they deserve to reap what they sow, both positive and negative.

    • CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 year ago

      https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers-sustainable-development/

      GIMP getting around $2k dollars a month or a bit more:

      https://fund.blender.org/

      138,000 euro MONTLY contribution.

      A wee bit of a difference in funding. There are alternatives to GIMP, not really as much for Blender. They cannot be compared. GIMP probably couldn’t afford a UI developer if they tried. You’re looking at least £3k pcm for someone who isn’t punishing themselves.

      Do you want to tell me what sort of voodoo magic GIMP do to match the resources Blender get? Your opinions are based in feelings, not reality. You may hate GIMP, you may hate the UI, you may want the project to fail and take that mission as keyboard crusader, but it’s unfortunately just not a realistic position, but hey, your feelings can be unrealistic if they want to be. You can feel what you want. Some of us hate big corporations and injustice, others, it seems hate free software projects built by volunteers.

      • GizmoLion@kbin.social
        0·
        1 year ago

        Krita gets ~4000 euros a month and their ui is beautiful, functional, streamlined, and dare I say on par with much, much larger offerings. Until recently Zbrush was a 1-time license purchase for years and years. Their software is incredibly powerful and their UI is well organized and feature rich, and their entire net worth is like $100k total…

        I’m going to let you argue with the wall, because you’d rather talk feelings than make a coherent argument.

        • CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          It’s a different tool. Krita is for painting. GIMP is for image manipulation.

          I’m assuming you’re not a professional programmer though, as professional programmer salaries are much higher. If Krita does more, it’s though sacrificing time, giving it away free. Not everyone is in a position to do that. You either pay for good developers, or hope for the sacrifice.

          Maybe I’ll try your approach and just bash projects, I’m sure that’s productive and helps open source improve. Feels a wee bit negative though…

          • GizmoLion@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            You’re a one man logical fallacy machine just reusing the same lines over and over. Just go away.

            • CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee
              0·
              1 year ago

              Weak, you cannot debate any of my points, so you’re going for the ad hominem. Ironic that you call me out for logical fallacies…

              • GizmoLion@kbin.social
                0·
                1 year ago

                You’re not interested in debate or discussion. You’re a dedicated white knight for gimp and all it’s jank, and you’ve no interest in engaging with the points made by others. Your best counterarguments are to either attack the person you disagree with directly, or what boils down to a “nuh uh because it works for me!”.

                If you want to actually discuss this do it in good faith or stop wasting our time.

                • CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  “dedicated White knight for GIMP”, another ad hominem, and probably showing a clear indication of your erm… questionable views.

                  “Your best counterarguments are to either attack the person you disagree with directly”. You cannot even see the hypocrisy.

                  “If you want to actually discuss this do it in good faith or stop wasting our time.” Right back atcha…