Edit: we made a join-lemmy.org banner in the center instead. It was a fight.

Edit: We’ve lost to South Africa. Please help with overwriting this r/ to c/ instead!

Top left corner of the green rectangle: (85, 228)
Template: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChaoticNeutralCzech/myRandomImages/main/placeLemmyTemplate.json

The previous one by The Black Company was too wide to defend against Italy. Let’s make this one! I know LEMMY.ML is not the full Lemmyverse but we don’t have space for JOIN-LEMMY.ORG now.

To use its template, install the r/place userscript (guide) and go to https://new.reddit.com/r/place/?jsontemplate=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2FChaoticNeutralCzech%2FmyRandomImages%2Fmain%2FplaceLemmyTemplate.json&screenmode=fullscreen
or if you already have it, import one of these (either the URLencoded one in URL, or the raw one in plugin settings)

https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2FChaoticNeutralCzech%2FmyRandomImages%2Fmain%2FplaceLemmyTemplate.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChaoticNeutralCzech/myRandomImages/main/placeLemmyTemplate.json
    • ChaoticNeutralCzechOP
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      I know, it’s better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the “shortest” Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

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        If your goal is to advertise the fediverse You should have used ‘kbin’.

        People can go directly to “lemmy.ml” but the site might disappear due to Mali re-establishing ownership of .ml domains, also its run by a tankie which will upset some people.

        “Lemmy” provides 10 google sponsored results and then ‘join-lemmy’, the join-lemmy website has you ‘join a server’ and then presents you lots of options.

        During the first Mastodon surge one of their issues is people felt overwhelmed by the options and it hurt Mastodon adoption, so a single website does make a lot of sense. Personally I would suggest lemmy.world its a general instance and the admins aren’t linked to any extremist views, but you said that would be too long.

        If you put ‘kbin’ into search the top result is kbin.social, that makes it seems like a reddit alternate. It keeps user choice limited and brings them into the fediverse. That means people aren’t confronted with the complexity of the fediverse immediately and can learn and understand it at their own pace.

        So if your goal is to advertise the fediverse I would push kbin, if your goal is to specifically get people to use a Lemmy based website I don’t think you have a good option

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          The only thing with kbin is the lack of a mobile app. A lot of newer reddit users don’t even know there’s a website. It might be hard to convince those users to switch to kbin if it doesn’t have a mobile app.

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            I agree with this. There is at least five apps right now that are great for people coming from reddit, so Lemmy has that covered.

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            Maybe I am old but I don’t understand the NEED for a mobile application.

            The kbin website works well on desktop and mobile web browsers with no render issues. The lemmy mobile apps all seem to be “alpha” quality.

            Why is a buggy app better thana working website?

            I choose an application or website based on which one works best. For example I browse Amazon via the web browser on the phone since the mobile application takes 2-5 seconds to load.

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              Wefwef is far from alpha quality, and it is a significantly better browsing experience than browser, at least on iOS, where you have to disable content blockers entirely to get comments to load if you have one installed.

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          I personally don’t care about Twitter like services and I think many Redditors don’t either, so kbin has some additional noise for us.

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            Clearly you haven’t used Kbin.

            KBin’s have two distinct views “Threads” (Reddit Style) and “Microblogs” (Twitter), the default view is “Threads”. You won’t see posts in the Thread view and you won’t see Articles/Threads in the Microblog view

            Its an option similar to Top/Hot/Newest its existence doesn’t hurt

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          Please no I don’t want my instance to get overrun by reddit users :(

          I mean some are cool but if we overpopulate instances they begin having issues, have we not learnt from lemmy.world and lemmy.ml having tons of issues early July?

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            But we’ve also stress tested and evolved lemmy as a whole because of those instances’ troubleshooting

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            Do you really think this will pull in more traffic than the API blackout?

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            sometimes your little hometown thing becomes the world thing… like the beatles from liverpool or james corden from hillington, greater london

            fucking nailed the metaphor

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          It’s poor branding, at least if someone knows Lemmy and they see a Lemmy link, they will go to it. Lemm.ee doesn’t intuitively look like a Lemmy instance to an outsider.

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            lemmy.ml is even poorer branding, because the majority of newcomers who would attempt to join it will be turned down. At least on lemm.ee they would actually be able to create an account.

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            Hey, that’s valid. I just know space was a premium. Personally, I don’t think it’s as hard of a leap as you make it out to be. It phonetically spells out “lemmy.” I think anyone who is curious enough to warrant a search could figure it out.

            That aside, you won’t find me on r/place. I want to stay off Reddit. Those that can tolerate it enough to vent their frustration and mourning while leaving a flag pointing where to go next… more power to ‘em.

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        You can thank Meta for that. They sued the registrar managing several ccTLDs, including .ml, .ga, .gq, .cf, and .tk. Meta even goes so far to fabricate a conspiracy theory about the registrar being part of a cybercriminal ring; they feign concern and wreak havoc.

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      I wouldn’t.

      That website is confusing to the average user and makes no sense. Linking directly to an instance, doesn’t matter which, gives them a familiar UI to Reddit, and allows them to click “sign up” without issue. From there they can learn about instances and join a different one.

      join-lemmy.org is confusing, and makes it seem like it’s some software you download to the average user.

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        It is the wrong instance to link to then, because lemmy.ml has severely limited who are allowed to join it. That would just leave much more confusion and antagonism towards the concept of lemmy than the join lemmy page.

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    There’s an ongoing fiasco with the Mali government reclaiming all .ml websites. Fmhy lemmy is already gone as they used a .ml. You may want to link to the org instead, just in case

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      I know, it’s better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the “shortest” Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

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        The guy that currently runs the .ml registrar is warning the US military that a lot of emails meant for .mil addresses are ending up on mail servers that he currently controls, and will end up in the hands of the Mali government very soon. He set up the navy dot ml and army dot ml domains years ago to intercept and discard those mistyped emails, but is renewing his efforts to contact the US DoD about the issue because he’s losing access/control of those servers when the Mali government takes back .ml.

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      Oh is that where that instance went. Was wondering what happened.

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    Of course it links to the domain that’s probably about to die in short order. This is why open source can’t have nice things.

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      Spend money on server and bandwidth? Yes.

      Spend $9 on a reputable domain name rather than a domain name you technically “rent” from an unscrupulous registrar that eventually takes back domains and redirects them to adult websites? Thus leading to them getting sued by Facebook and bringing enough attention to Mail for them to take back the domains? Nah.

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      Lemmy world already has a lot of users

      we should now encourage users to use different instances

      because that’s the point of using a federated platform

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    Is not there yet, but one can hope.

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      More people being aware of lemmy on reddit is also good thing in the long run isn’t it?

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        Not r/Place imo, it’s 100% feeding back into reddit directly and is clearly bringing back even Lemmy users just to engage. Deleting comments or editing existing ones with comment about Lemmy or something and just leave reddit.

        Or only contribute to “reddit alternatives” reddit. The people on there already, especially on place, won’t leave reddit for Lemmy that’s for damn sure. It’s a pointless advertisement and is just feeding into the engagement cycle

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          Disagree r/place always was what i showed my non reddit using friends and at the moment half of the people seeing place are twitch users.

          Also i can’t think of better place to advertise the fediverse than a picture with fuck spez all over it.

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              I appreciate that you’re actually respectfully disagreeing instead of deciding that someone with a different opinion than you must clearly be a Reddit bootlicker and a [insert more insults here]. Even if they’re still opposed to Reddit’s actions and just think the best anti-Reddit action is different from what you think it is. I’ve seen way too much of that on Reddit discussion on Reddit alternatives, so thanks for not doing that.

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                Yeah I mean it’s a matter of opinions not objective facts because it can truly go either way. I also don’t want to argue online :) pointlessly it ain’t my thing. Maybe that’s why I’m here hahah!

                Have a great day

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        He just wants people at r/Place period. Whatever goes on in there is driving up reddit traffic. Pretty sure that’s what he cares about the most.

        Anyway agree to disagree, have a nice day