• iridaniotter [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    8 hours ago

    If ButtBidet says yes, the justification that follows would be on the basis of the patriarchy existing and putting men in a privileged position… which seems to be wandering right back into lib bio-essentialism territory.

    What.

    No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism! Neither is white supremacy existing race realism! What the fuck! These are social systems that justify themselves through such pseudoscience but in reality are 100% social and thus can be overthrown.

    • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism

      I wasn’t intending to claim that — the patriarchy can and should be overthrown. The patriarchy harms people of all genders.

      I was thinking of a particular line of reasoning following from it to justify men deserving hate (for instance, “men deserve hate on account of being men, because they are in a system where they are privileged”) might be though.

      I guess you’re right that a better line of reasoning could follow, e.g. men, exploiting this position of privilege and thus inflicting harm, deserve hate as a result.