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- msp@midwest.social
Summary
Two transgender women, Dahlia and Jess, were attacked at a Minneapolis rail station, with onlookers cheering their assailants instead of helping.
After confronting a man yelling transphobic slurs, the situation escalated into a violent assault involving four or five others, leaving both women unconscious.
Advocates attribute the rise in anti-trans violence to emboldened transphobia fueled by misinformation and political rhetoric, including Donald Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ policies.
The local trans community is responding with solidarity rallies, self-defense classes, and firearm training to prepare for a potential increase in attacks.
Police are investigating, but no arrests have been made.
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Police are investigating, but no arrests have been made.
They have surveillance footage and logs of so these people were from when they entered, surely. No arrests means they’re choosing to not arrest.
What the actual fuck. This is beyond words, and I hope those two women heal quickly. They didn’t deserve that.
The wastes of human flesh that did this and cheered for it need to be jailed and put on a list like sex offenders. I know there’s problems with that system but there’s gotta be some kind of action people can do to help trans folks stay safe. A hate crime list would be a way to start.
I don’t know about the legality of assembling one outside official channels, but people can pressure their states to make one since the infrastructure is already there.
Jesus, thats my worst nightmare.
Onlookers aren’t just afraid to step-in, but actually all cheering for the oppressor.
If hell was real maybe they’d re-live that moment and a subsequent moment of them all being hanged in the town square with everyone cheering for them to die for the rest of eternity.
Time to arm yourselves… Everyone
Except if trans people defend themselves with firearms, they should expect to have the book thrown at them. It’s not fair, it’s fucked up, but it’s something I could see happening.
Rules for thee, not for me.
This is strikingly similar to how Jews were treated in pre-war germany
Time to learn from history and not give in easily
LGBT people were treated the same way, this is how it starts.
Surprised you’re not being downvoted to oblivion with this comment.
Regardless of their politician position, Lemmy users aren’t exactly know for being passive push overs. Those types stayed on Reddit.
I’m slightly confused with this comment. Anything pro2a on lemmy gets massively downvoted and or removed. Lemmy is filled with antigun people. Hell look at my comment on this, people probably have me tagged as a gun nut and automatically downvote me. Not that I give a shit, but it shows how ignorant they are.
Lemmy users are most definitely passive pushovers when it comes to defense.
Lemmy, like myself, if of two kinds of firearms. On one hand their proliferation throughout America has created an unending slaughter of children. That’s bad. But when a black history teacher that I’m friends with tells me to get a cc permit as a white trans woman maybe both of us should carry.
So yeah guns for oppressed minorities, mass disarmament of Nazis. But let’s be real, the inverse will happen
Massive straw man. I downvoted you for making assumptions about the lemmy user base.
Lol ok, you’re delusional if you think lemmy users are even remotely progun.
Wow you doubled down on that straw man, nice job, do you work for the NRA or what?
Because this is the exact sort of straw man the NRA uses when it comes to the left and guns.
No, people don’t want to be banned or tracked for making certain types of statements that might be in violation of ToS(or local laws), so they dance around what they actually mean.
Lol no they do not. There is no ToS or even state/local laws in the USA that make it illegal to discuss owning firearms. The fuck are you on about? Reddit would have banned all the firearm subs a long time ago if this was the case. Lemmy users are mainly antigun, this isnt rocket science.
Your first comment in this chain is surprise about the up votes for support for armed self defense, you then insist that Lenny users don’t support gun ownership… Clearly Lemmy users support self defense. The push back I see comes from people bringing their assault rifles to do grocery shopping like some emotional support dog.
Also, an anti gun Queer person from ten years may have changed their stance by now as the situation gets more desperate. There’s no clear path for disarming every citizen and when even the State is directly hostile to your existence, you may decide that the safest path forward is to level the field.
Also, the ToS/laws comment is about what you may need a gun for that’s not exactly legal, but again, when the State makes your existence illegal, that stops being important.
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessaryKarl Marx
Americans in all their Ugliness is on parade and evil has been unleashed.
My live reaction:
Crowd cheered as two transgender women…
:D
…were attacked in Minneapolis
D:
I guess its my fault for being even slightly optimistic.
If the last few weeks hasn’t beaten the optimism out of you, please tell me which cave you are hiding in so I can come join you.
I hope the people who beat them and those who cheered all live a long, miserable life full of their own loneliness, sorrow, and suffering. I hope that they die alone with nobody around them to care for or support them. And I hope to someday piss on their graves.
May their children marry trans people and their siblings decide not to bother inviting them to holidays
I’d rather they come to learn compassion and tolerance. So hatred and violence can stop.
Nah, too long. Can we get a thanos snap?
I feel like that lets them off the hook too much. But I suppose if it’s all we have…
What in the world would the benefit of not “letting them off the hook” be…?
Schadenfreude/revenge porn.
Not a great benefit but most humans like to indulge in it from time to time 🤷🏻♀️
But in the long run it would be better for marginalized communities if the assholes all just disappeared immediately so while the schadenfreude would be delectable it’s probably not worth it.
Personally, I prefer Law Abiding Citizen.
I thought Minneapolis was one of the more enlightened places in the USA. But I guess they also have these violent bigots and murderous racist cops.
My take is Minnesota in general is very divided. There are some very cool people there but also some very horrible ones. The cool ones are winning but that doesn’t mean they win every time or that it’s inevitable that they win.
This is not the first instance of transgender women getting attacked at MPLS public transit stations either. There was another such attack in the last few years at a MPLS bus station a couple miles south of my place.
Uh, George Floyd?
I thought Minneapolis was one of the more enlightened places in the USA.
The sad part is… it is.
Mass immigration from certain very “unenlightened” areas may have ruined that forever, and also brought in an ideology that is extremely hostile to LGBT people and liberal values.
I live in mn, and unfortunately this was my first thought.
Well George Floyd was murdered in Minneapolis so it’s not looking too great there
Black people are (still) getting murdered by cops everywhere. What set Minneapolis apart was that they didn’t stand by and watch, they did something about it. Sadly, that isn’t what happened in this story.
I think you’ll find the same in San Francisco, Portland, and New York.
Shitheads everywhere.
This is what worries me when my trans friends tell me they don’t want to carry a weapon. They often say they live in a safe city, that they don’t feel there’s any danger being “out” in public where they live. And then stories like this happen.
I don’t think there are safe cities anymore. We saw attacks against LGBT communities rise under Trump once already, and we’re already seeing them popping up again before he’s even back in office. I really wish more trans people were open to the idea of carrying something to protect themselves with; even a knife of pepper spray is better than nothing. Don’t go without a fight.
Everyone should carry pepper spray.
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Dahlia and Jess were leaving the station when a man started yelling transphobic slurs at them, Amber Muhm, a rally organizer who spoke to both of them after the incident, told The Independent. Jess asked him to stop talking to them that way, prompting the man to “sucker punch” her. Dahlia then struck the man with her cane, Muhm said.
Although the man was “knocked out,” four or five other people ran up and began to “mercilessly beat” the two transgender women, Muhm said.
“People were cheering the attackers on,” Muhm said. Both of them were knocked unconscious and Dahlia was left with a broken nose while Jess suffered “multiple contusions” on her ribs
Because you clearly didn’t actually read it.
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Which part makes you think the man yelling insults to strangers and then sucker punching them when called out on it makes him the victim?
Or maybe it’s the five guys that ground pounded them, breaking a nose and ribs, that are the victims.
Snowflake behavior. It’s crazy how triggered people get from a strangers sexuality, even as to defend gratuitous violence online.
Try to read.
The single person who upvoted this comment didn’t make it four paragraphs into the article. The person who wrote it is a disgusting fucking liar.
What exactly is it that you think you’re trying to say?
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Jess asked him to stop talking to them that way, prompting the man to “sucker punch” her. Dahlia then struck the man with her cane, Muhm said.
Yeah, that’s some real “spin”, right there.
It sounds like you’re just trying to be contrarian? Do you have any reason whatsoever to not believe the article? I understand doubting the article, but it seems you’ve just decided that it is exactly the opposite of the truth, which I don’t get.
You left out and twisted just enough information to fit your false narrative. Get a life, weirdo.
