• BashfulBob [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    This would cause a revolution in Egypt and destroy the current regime if they attempted this.

    Good. The Egyptian state is a bloody fisted dictatorship and the sooner it falls the better.

    Israel and the US already attempted to strong arm Egypt

    I don’t believe this for an instant. They are entirely a creature of the US/Israeli state and will jump however high they’re told.

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      Good. The Egyptian state is a bloody fisted dictatorship and the sooner it falls the better.

      moralism above realism? In my hexbear? Well I never…

      I don’t believe this for an instant. They are entirely a creature of the US/Israeli state and will jump however high they’re told.

      Literally documented and factual, sorry you don’t believe reality. Stop talking about “good” and “evil” and start thinking about analyzing the interests of the parties involved.

      https://newlinesmag.com/essays/how-plans-to-move-palestinians-to-egypt-backfired/

      https://www.reuters.com/world/egypt-discussing-plans-provide-aid-gaza-under-limited-ceasefire-security-sources-2023-10-11/

      Egypt has discussed plans with the United States and others to provide humanitarian aid through its border with Gaza Strip but rejects any move to set up safe corridors for refugees fleeing the enclave, Egyptian security sources said on Wednesday.

      The United States was pressuring Egypt to allow in 2 million palestinian refugees as part of a “humanitarian corridor”, but was unable to get them to agree because this is an existential issue for Egypt.

      Moving Palestinians out of Palestine en masse is genocide and is the goal of Israel and USA. Forced mass relocations and population transfers are genocide. Stop advocating for genocide. Stop downplaying the sacrifices of the martyrs. You are advocating towards the US/Israeli goal, not away from it. You are calling for surrender, for defeatism, and as someone outside of the fight you need to shut the fuck up

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        moralism above realism?

        Materialism over idealism.

        Stop talking about “good” and “evil”

        Your words, not mine.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/egypt-discussing-plans-provide-aid-gaza-under-limited-ceasefire-security-sources-2023-10-11/

        Israel’s ambassador in Egypt, Amira Oron, said in post on social media that Israel had “no intentions in relation to Sinai, and has not asked Palestinians to move there … Sinai is Egyptian territory.”

        That’s after you scrape off all the US propaganda smeared across this article.

        The United States was pressuring Egypt to allow in 2 million palestinian refugees as part of a “humanitarian corridor”

        The US was lying about doing this, just like they lied about everything else. Israel has closed the Rafa crossing from the East and used the kettled civilians as target practice. There was no plan to send Palestinians into Egypt, merely to box them and slaughter them.

        Moving Palestinians out of Palestine en masse is genocide

        Trapping them in Gaza and starving them in between bombings is genocide.

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          Materialism over idealism.

          What part of “surrender to imperialists and let them complete genocide without fighting back” is materialism? Can you point out that logic for me? Seems like you are just a stupid liberal using idealism to me

          Your words not mine

          I was literally quoting you saying “good” to Egypt accepting its own collapse. It won’t do it, it’s not a matter of good or evil, it just won’t agree. Your proposed hypothetical is a pipedream fantasy, and yet you call yourself a materialist for just wishcasting that states implode themselves

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            What part of “surrender to imperialists and let them complete genocide without fighting back” is materialism?

            Listen, Mao. You can’t just Long March your way into the back country to regroup, retrain, and reorganize. You have to stay on the East Coast until the last Communist’s head is on a pike. Otherwise, you’re surrendering to the imperialists. Same goes to you, Fidel. NO. LEAVING. CUBA. And I better not see Lenin sneaking off to Germany after the failed revolt of 1905. You go right down to the Tsar’s house now and do a full Revolution. Don’t think you can prattle off for twelve years and come riding in via sealed boxcar when the regime is at its weakest.