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    5 hours ago

    Let’s compare on-boarding processes for Mastodon and BlueSky

    How to join Mastodon:

    • First pick an instance!

    User: What is «instance»?

    • Lectures user for 10 min. over what federation is, comparing it to email federation

    User: Ok… but what instance should I use?

    • You gotta figure that out yourself!

    User: picks random instance.

    Now one of these things happen

    1. Every thing goes well

    2. They pick a small instance with almost nobody in it, complain that there is no-one there and leave or the instance gets shut down.

    3. They pick an instance centered around something they are not interested because they had no info on what each instance is like other than a small description that doesn’t give you a good idea of what the average post is like.

    No matter which one happens, if they stick around, things like this will pop up:

    Someone will send them a link to a Mastodon post. They click it, but the link they were send was on another instance as such they are logged out. Thing is, they don’t know what federation is and most instances have nearly indistinguishably UI, as thus the user doesn’t notice they are on a completely different site. “Strange”, they think, “I could have sworn I was logged in”. Then they try to log in on the other instance… can’t and get confused and maybe even panic. “Did I just lose my account?”.

    Now, with that being said, Email is still an example of a federated platform with mass adoption, and we should use it as an example when explaining the fediverse. But I would like to stress the following point: most instances have nearly indistinguishably UI, as thus the user doesn’t notice they are on a completely different site. Go different Email instances and they look distinct. Go to gmail.com and outlook.com and they look distinct enough so that people can intuitively understand that, although they are both email services, their Gmail account is not going to let them log into Outlook.

    Mastodon instances on the other hand? They just brand themselves as “Mastodon” and that’s about it. They look identical! Just LOOK:

    No wonder people get confused. The big instances NEED to look distinct for this to work. Otherwise, the federation thing will be confusing.


    I made a post on asklemmy asking why people were choosing BlueSky over Mastodon and not understanding federation was one of the major pain points.