"Voters in liberal strongholds across the country, from city centers to suburban stretches, failed to show up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris at the levels they had for Joseph R. Biden Jr. four years earlier, contributing significantly to her defeat by Donald Trump,” the New York Times reports.
“Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.”
“The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats — including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.”
Enjoy your Trump administration all of you dems who couldn’t be bothered to vote.
If we truly live in a democratic state, shouldn’t the onus of be on the candidate to capture the desires and will of the electorate and not the duty of the citizen to vote for the party?
It’s both. And a candidate failing to earn your vote doesn’t absolve you of the responsibility to protect democracy from a fascist when the situation presents itself.
You should be downvoted for this.
If your point is simply “why isn’t everyone doing the work for my lazy ass”, GFY
If that’s the point you inferred from my post, you’ve grossly misread
Disagree
I tell you that you’ve misunderstood me and you’re telling me “I disagree, I know what point you are trying to make”?
Oh boy, buddy, I need your thoughts and opinions like a hole in the head, good luck!
Do you need a reality check? Let’s get one:
- The US isn’t winning any contests for being “the best” at anything at anytime soon except…
- We enable billionaires to increase wealth, and…
- we further elect people who believe that allowing said billionaires to have a say in public policy.
You’re an absolute fucking idiot if you think anything else is happening right now.
Politicians mobilize voters, not the other way around. A politician failed to effectively mobilize. The strategy isn’t just “make everyone vote”, it’s to get people to care. The genocide isn’t a single issue to be ignored, it’s 43k reasons to not vote for either candidate.
Hard disagree, especially now when a previous reality show asshole can worm his way into office.
Why do you disagree? He mobilized the same number of voters, consistent over 3 elections. He got them to care, by borrowing leftist aesthetics to push class division.
Do you seriously think that Trump’s campaign “mobilized voters”?
Your cognitive dissonance is insane if so.
He lied and promised shit he had no intention of delivering on. Hands fucking down.
Of course he did. The problem is that Harris failed to even promise stuff.
Why do you believe that what he did wasn’t mobilization? Enough people voted for him that he won, that’s called mobilization.
I’m glad all that AIPAC money was worth it. Good thing Kamala had the fundraising edge over Trump. It sure did her a lot of good.
It turns out that while, “vote for my candidate. She may be Mussolini, but at least she’s not Hitler. She’s the objectively better choice!” may be objectively true, it’s a shit campaign strategy and message.
Don’t ask people to vote for something they consider cartoonishly evil and then be surprised when they refuse.
Enjoy your Trump administration, all you dems who honestly expected LEFT WING VOTERS to just be OK with a genocide.
The one good thing that is coming from this is that this loss is motivating liberal voters to build a “Guillotine Party”, to do to Democratic leadership what the Tea Party did to the GOP.
build a “Guillotine Party”, to do to Democratic leadership what the Tea Party did to the GOP.
Wait, what?
I don’t know if it will happen, but it absolutely should. We need to purge the corporate centrists from the Democratic leadership. They’ve delivered nothing but loss after loss after loss. Biden only barely managed to squeak out a win in 2020 because of Covid and by promising to run as a one-term caretaker president.
These tone-deaf idiots have the same fucking playbook every damn time. Their playbook is:
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Prevent a primary if possible.
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If a primary must occur, use any dirty trick necessary in the primary to make sure a corporate centrist whens the primary.
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Once the centrist has the nomination, try to win by moving ever-more conservative and try to win over moderate Republicans.
In contrast, Republicans run with a platform that will actually energize their base, and they win.
Meanwhile, Democrats run candidates that their own polling shows will tank their chances of winning and will anger their base. Then they try to make up for the lost base voters by hoping that, maybe this time, Republicans will actually vote for a Democrat.
Exactly.
Our focus needs to be on class issues: Wealth disparity, healthcare, housing. We need big, systemic solutions, not bandaids.
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Top tier income tax rate needs to return to the punitive levels it was at before Reagan: Ultra-high earners need to decide between spending a lot of money on tax deductible expenses (like labor), or giving the majority of that money to the IRS.
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We need a wealth tax. Not on all wealth, just certain kinds of assets. Specifically, a tax on registered securities, such as stocks, bonds, and other financial instruments. Exempt the first $10 million held by natural persons, as we do need capital investment. However, that capital should be coming from (and owed back to) the working class. Pretty much every worker should be receiving shares of their company as part of their compensation.
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Rent needs to die in a goddamn fire. Hardly anybody should be renting residential property. To that end, we need massive increases on property taxes that are exempted for owner-occupants. Raise the property taxes (and exemptions) and keep raising them, until the landlords figure out they can make more money as private lenders to their (former) tenants than as landlords to those same tenants. The few actual landlords remaining will be owners of duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes, who live in one of the units and rent out the remainder. Apartment complexes will be reconfigured as condominiums.
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Universal Healthcare. True universal healthcare. Single payer. You show up at the doctor’s office, urgent care, ER, pharmacy, and you’ll never see a bill. We’ll pay for it with that securities tax. Employer-sponsored healthcare can remain a thing, but there should be no tax benefit or other public support for it.
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We do need a minimum wage (around $15/hr today) but we need a “standard wage” that is substantially higher. (Around $22/hr today) A living wage. All businesses must pay at least a minimum wage. Large businesses (Or franchisees of large businesses) must start at that standard wage.
I’d eagerly vote for this platform. Are you running?
Are you looking for a VP?
Edit : also, cap political donations or even better, every candidate that gets a certain amount of signatures gets a set amount of campaign cash from the Fed, and they can’t spend any more than that.
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I don’t think that will happen. I think the dems are suffering from lack of leadership and direction. The party is too frayed to be effective at anything.
The difference between the left and the right is that many Republican voters will vote for a candidate based on a single issue, while many Democrat voters will not vote for a candidate based on a single issue.
I’m genuinely not sure if there is a set of policies the left can offer which will adequately appeal to their entire base. I think the best case is another 2008 Obama who didn’t actually campaign on much hard policy other than just idealistic “hope”, which meant that a lot of voters could see what they wanted in him.
Meanwhile Republicans will continue to destroy the country while throwing out scraps like marginally lower taxes (but much lower for the rich).
I’m genuinely not sure if there is a set of policies the left can offer which will adequately appeal to their entire base.
“Eat the rich” might do it.
I think it’s less lack of voter turnout and more that 2020 pushed vote by mail hard due to the covid restrictions. That ended up inflating the turnout, and I’m sure you know, when more people vote, Democrats win.
Without that same VBM push, turnout dropped.
2020:
Biden - 81,283,501
Trump - 74,223,9752024* (so far):
Trump - 74,846,364
Harris - 71,259,005Trump never relied on vote by mail, and, in fact, told his supporters not to do it. His numbers didn’t effectively change +622,389 out of 74,846,364 = +0.8%
Joe DID and now we see the results… 10 million lost votes.
But look at states who are 100% vote by mail already:
Oregon 2020:
Biden - 1,340,383
Trump - 958,448Oregon 2024* (so far):
Harris - 1,155,481
Trump - 861,020But in a state like PA that went hard for vote by mail in 2020 and not so much in 2024:
Pennsylvania 2020:
Biden - 3,458,229
Trump - 3,377,674PA 2024:
Trump - 3,511,865
Harris - 3,366,829Harris is dead last out of all 4 numbers.
Your numbers don’t show that it’s vote by mail. Kamala lost ~ 13% compared to Biden nationwide and in your example vote by mail state Oregon she lost ~14%
California isn’t in yet but doing some rough math she looks like she’ll get ~9 million total compared to Biden who got over 11 million, so around an 18% drop in another very heavy vote by mail state.
