oh, these are all four years past their EOL. Yeesh.
Yeah, at a certain point it’s the consumer’s (and blog writer’s) fault, and that’s after EoL. Not patching a supported one and just getting rid of support, saying buy a newer one? Yeah, that’s bad.
Continuing to not support an EoL model that you already don’t support due to EoL (or even dropping support for an EoL model that no one expected you to support in the first place due to EoL)? Non-issue.
I was going to disagree, because manufacturers often set a very short and arbitrary EOL, but looking at the amazon price history this doesn’t seem to have been sold new since around 2013.
At what point is that acceptable? Attacks like this were well known when this was new so shouldn’t they fix it? 12 year old cars have been recalled before, but there are a lot of cars without the latest safety fixes. We need aeserious debate over when it is accebtable to call something that works scrap because it isn’t supported. there are costs to the environment and society around this so even though I don’t own one of these devices I’m affected but it.
Cars are not consumer grade NAS. If you want your consumer NAS to have the same regulated support requirements, expect to see prices go up by about 5x or more. Auto tech doesn’t age out like computer tech. I wouldn’t want a 20 year old device - the power consumption alone would be horrific, let alone the performance and lack of capability.
These are already 4 years past EOL. Know how long we spec servers for our clients? 5 years, max (we push them to replace at 4 years).
After 5 years the risks go up, and dealing with an outage will cost more in support costs than simply having planned and deployed a new system already.
These devices are double our server lifetime already - last made in 2013.
Again, I do dumb shit like this for my own systems at home, because I deal with the risk myself (redundancy). I’d never let a client do this. If someone had one of these at any point, I would’ve been replacing it - even if it was brand new.
My complaint against Dlink is these things were junk from the start. But expecting anything from them years after EOL is unreasonable.
It would be REALLY nice if IT appliances had replaceable admin boards, especially for something as simple as a nas that probably hasn’t upgraded the PCI buss in a decade :)
Continuing to not support an EoL model that you already don’t support due to EoL (or even dropping support for an EoL model that no one expected you to support in the first place due to EoL)? Non-issue.
Dropping support should mean opening the source. I think there’s a movement about that.
So what you’re saying is I should be able to pickup one of these used for a song?
Edit: oh, these are all four years past their EOL. Yeesh.
I run old hardware like this, but I’d never recommend anyone else do it.
Yeah, at a certain point it’s the consumer’s (and blog writer’s) fault, and that’s after EoL. Not patching a supported one and just getting rid of support, saying buy a newer one? Yeah, that’s bad.
Continuing to not support an EoL model that you already don’t support due to EoL (or even dropping support for an EoL model that no one expected you to support in the first place due to EoL)? Non-issue.
I was going to disagree, because manufacturers often set a very short and arbitrary EOL, but looking at the amazon price history this doesn’t seem to have been sold new since around 2013.
At what point is that acceptable? Attacks like this were well known when this was new so shouldn’t they fix it? 12 year old cars have been recalled before, but there are a lot of cars without the latest safety fixes. We need aeserious debate over when it is accebtable to call something that works scrap because it isn’t supported. there are costs to the environment and society around this so even though I don’t own one of these devices I’m affected but it.
Last sold 20+ years ago sounds reasonable.
Cars are not consumer grade NAS. If you want your consumer NAS to have the same regulated support requirements, expect to see prices go up by about 5x or more. Auto tech doesn’t age out like computer tech. I wouldn’t want a 20 year old device - the power consumption alone would be horrific, let alone the performance and lack of capability.
These are already 4 years past EOL. Know how long we spec servers for our clients? 5 years, max (we push them to replace at 4 years).
After 5 years the risks go up, and dealing with an outage will cost more in support costs than simply having planned and deployed a new system already.
These devices are double our server lifetime already - last made in 2013.
Again, I do dumb shit like this for my own systems at home, because I deal with the risk myself (redundancy). I’d never let a client do this. If someone had one of these at any point, I would’ve been replacing it - even if it was brand new.
My complaint against Dlink is these things were junk from the start. But expecting anything from them years after EOL is unreasonable.
It would be REALLY nice if IT appliances had replaceable admin boards, especially for something as simple as a nas that probably hasn’t upgraded the PCI buss in a decade :)
Dropping support should mean opening the source. I think there’s a movement about that.
Swap the OS for sure