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    17 days ago

    How much can a state realistically hold off when Republicans control the house, the senate, and have a right leaning supreme court?

    EDIT: In case it wasn’t clear this wasn’t sarcasm or anything. I’m genuinely curious.

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        17 days ago

        So just keep delaying as much as you can until the next election that may not happen if Trump gets his way? And then once the election happens, we have to hope that the Democrats learned their lesson at the third time?

        That’s pretty bleak man.

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          17 days ago

          There are some good obstruction techniques that others have pointed out like messing around with interstate commerce, fees, tariffs, etc, to use as leverage, too.

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      Illinois could start charging exorbitant tolls to Trucks to enter or leave the state and extra fees to planes coming or going to red states in order to replace any revenue lost from the federal funding. California could start charging export fees to states that don’t follow climate requirements. DC could start charging security fees to the federal government and require politicians and scouts to pay for personal armed escorts wherever they go.

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        17 days ago

        Almost all of that is very obviously extremely unconstitutional and would get injuncted well before it could possibly get anywhere near implementation.

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            17 days ago

            If you ignore federal court orders you will go to federal prison.

            They will absolutely enforce that. States do not have the authority to charge export taxes.

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                They would (and would be correct to) arrest every government official who refuses to comply with the federal order for contempt of court. It’s not a difficult enforcement.

                And the businesses would obviously refuse to pay illegal taxes.

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                  If you come into a state and break the law the police would be obligated to do their jobs and arrest you for not paying and seize your shipment.

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                    That’s not at all how any of this works. That’s not even how tax enforcement works.

                    Police officers who violate a federal order telling them that they are not allowed to enforce illegal taxes will also go to federal prison. The federal government can, will, and should tear state agencies blatantly ignoring explicit federal court orders to pieces.

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      I’m guessing we’ll see the same legal approach to things like abortion as we currently do with weed. If the fed wants to deal with it they can, but don’t expect Colorado to help. Unfortunately with their new sweeping mandate from the people I expect the fed to actually care about abortion more than weed.

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      I feel like a broken record but idgaf at this point. This ends in civil war when troops are sent in to enforce the agenda of Project 2025

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      With the pace of litigation they can at least delay things for a good while. Cases still have to work their way up to the supreme court and get heard.

      Regulations in the Code of Federal Regulations still have long public comment processes and take years to enact or repeal.

      A Senate majority of 53 is workable, but also fragile. That’s a pretty small margin for defections, and that is going to put some limits on what can get passed.