Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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    Really. You think I’m happy about this? That the Both Sides crowd can’t understand basic mathematics and spoiler effect, or zero-sum logic?

    As far as I’m concerned I’m far more distraught and less willing to throw away civilian lives in Gaza and Ukraine than the likes of you. There’s a lot of naivety going around thinking that things can’t possibly get worse in both of these places for civilians.

    Let’s see how that logic plays out.

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      That the Both Sides crowd can’t understand basic mathematics and spoiler effect, or zero-sum logic?

      You are fundamentally failing to understand their position if you think these things are valid contradictions to them.

      As far as I’m concerned I’m far more distraught and less willing to throw away civilian lives in Gaza and Ukraine than the likes of you.

      These are two VERY different situations that can’t be lumped together like that. And honestly god damn you to hell for wrapping yourself in that cloak. Especially considering the situation in Ukraine that your side has deliberately turned into a ‘second Afghanistan’ with zero interest in the lives of the civilians who have to live in war. The cynicism is disgusting. That blood is on your hands. If Trump ends that war it’s objectively a good thing.

      And holy shit I’m getting sick of telling you sociopathic lying fucking liberals off for pretending there’s any room to be worse when it comes to Gaza. There has been zero restraint put on the nazi regime there. Democrats have tripped over themselves to send aid package after aid package.

      It is the most intellectually dishonest thing you could fucking say. Shame on you.

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        This gaslighting denial, absent of any actual substantive logic truly is laughable.

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          If you think I’m substantively wrong about any factual claim I’ve made, why are you responding with vapid snark?