• sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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    3 hours ago

    I’m not American

    I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat? Does that happen where you live?

    Harris didn’t lose because everyone voted for Trump, Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said. The numbers and voter stats are all there for people to read. Harris AND Trump got overall less votes than 2020, but Harris lost the Blue Wall from 2020. Hillary at least won the popular vote, Harris and the 2024 DNC don’t even have that.

    It doesn’t matter where you are in the world, voter turnout correlates to progressives getting in power. The conservatives always have a core base of ~20-30% of voters that will always show up (no really, look up historical voter numbers in your own country), and the DNC have really tried appealing to these people in the US instead of bringing out their own base!

    It’s a flawed strategy because it’s shown over and over again that these core voters will always vote through their conservative party lines.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat?

      You’re right. Too stupid of me to think Americans would hold their noses and vote to keep someone who’s objectively worse for the whole planet out of the oval office.

      Does that happen where you live?

      No unfortunately, but I live in a third world country full of uneducated population. Again, dumb of me to assume Americans would be any different.

      Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said

      And they’re getting second Trump presidency. Good job riding that high horse. 👍

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        54 minutes ago

        It’s not a high horse, because I voted for Kamala Harris. But as someone who actually goes here, I knew this was going to be the exact outcome, because this high minded “vote for Trump to save democracy” is what got us in this mess in the first place. It happened in exactly like this 2016, and the Dem’s didn’t learn.

        Sure, we can blame the electorate, I’m all for it. But saying that it’s SOLELY the electorate’s fault when the DNC has been trotting out milquetoast candidates one after the other is so disingenuous. Americans keep saying they don’t want two right wing candidates, but no one is listening.

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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          33 minutes ago

          It’s not a high horse, because I voted for Kamala Harris.

          I’m talking about dem non-voters.

          How many DNC members protested when Biden decided to run for the second time? Surely not millions or so.

          If they didn’t then they should’ve voted for Harris when Biden stepped down cause that was the need of the hour. Instead they stayed home and risked a second Trump presidency.

          And if these really were politically aware voters who wanted a progressive candidate, did they not understand the gravity of the situation? Of possibility of second Trump administration and all the bullshit that entails?

          Nah. I don’t buy it.