• TheOubliette
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    2 months ago

    An ultra-liberal article that reduces politics to voting and lets Dems off the hook for their pro-fossil-fuels policies. The greenwashing nature of solar subsidies and telling people to recycle are working well to cover for Dems that are pro-fracking, sic cops on Keystone XL protestors, turn the US into a net exporter of oil and gas, expand their imperialist military to the point that if it were a country it would be a top-10 emitter (not to mention those who it destroys), and launching/escalating a trade war at Chinese solar panels, leqding to massive shortages and massively delayed installations in the US.

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      2 months ago

      There are a ton of things we should be doing to push Democrats. But not today — to even have a chance of any kind of activism to work, we need to elect them first.

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        You will have a chance for activism under any election result. I recommend starting that work ASAP so that you can be grounded in your expectations.

        Being unrealistic about who Democrats are will not help with any of these things, either. It can only serve to create a false sense of what is to come.

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          Being unrealistic about who Democrats are will not help

          Correct. That’s why I voted for Harris; because she’s better than Trump.

          If Trump wins, I hope you are personally a victim of the regime. I hope your actions have fucking consequences.

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            Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.

            “Anarchist” instance btw.

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                The person invested in electoralism for capitalist genociders is here to tell us who is and who is not “leftist”, the most milquetoast of terms.

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      2 months ago

      So wait, are you for free trade then, even though it results in exploitation of overseas workers and environments not granted the same degree of protections? Or is it just okay this time, since global warming is so dangerous?

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        There isn’t really such thing as “free trade”, at least not how it’s described in most definitions. While it is a reference to knocking down regulations and trade barriers (which does include tariffs), it is only really used in a way that serves imperialist interests. It is normally used to prevent countries from using protectionism to ensure their own industries can be built up, particularly to drive food sovereignty, to make them instead develop economies that suit imperialist exploitation (and generate food dependency).

        So I’m not in favor of free trade.

        But we can recognize that putting big ol’ tariffs on Chinese solar panels has mostly just amounted to shortages and delays for installing solar globally, and the only purpose of those tariffs is to begin building up a new cold war, not anything that is actually beneficial regarding the climate.

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            Of course! Thank you for your question and your position as well

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              Well, my position is not exactly in agreement. While I was curious, I think there are far more reasons to apply tariffs to certain products than simply wanting another cold war.

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                Well the US has no stimulate-able domestic industry so isolating China is the only realistic option. And this has been clear for at least a decade. There is no domestic industry making these things at any usable scale.

                Medium-scale solar panel installations are backed up over a year btw.

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                  US manufacturing currently sat at 26 GW annually, with a 71% increase in the first quarter of the year. Demand being high is also unsurprising.

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                    Over a year delay is clearly demonstrable undercapacity