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    4 hours ago

    Yes, I’m aware that those are the only realistic winners of this election. I’m not aware of anything I might have said that would imply I think otherwise.

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      Then I have to think you believe Trump and Harris would be equally bad and therefore don’t feel compelled to vote strategically against either.

      Do I have that right?

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        No. They are not equally bad, but neither is an acceptable choice.

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          So I’ll use a random what-if/analogy since you seem to love them SO much!

          Imagine a magic elf came down from magic elf land, and made you chose between having an acute health condition and cancer. Do you mean to say that you are totally fine with allowing other people to decide for you- full-well knowing that half of the people deciding are huge fans of cancer and not at all fans of you?

          Because this is your logic mirrored right back back at you.

          Or would you actually give a shit in this case because it will be YOU that’s affected by the outcome.

          Either way-

          You’re getting one regardless. Not choosing doesn’t make the election not happen. But you know this. Don’t you?

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            I don’t subscribe to the ideology of lesser-evilism.

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                Nope, not supporting the worse evil either.

                Lesser-evilism freqently produces worse results than more coherent strategies and ethical systems.

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                Sure. Ethically speaking, anyone who’s not an act utilitarian will accept the “greater evil” in some circumstances, and if you don’t, it leads to some absurd conclusions, like chopping up a healthy person to get organ transplants to save five. Another example would be, “If you don’t kill someone for me, I’ll kill two people.” I can’t prevent every bad thing from happening, but I can control my own actions and choose not to be a party to bad things.

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                  Got it. Voting, in your mind, is akin to two different examples of murder.

                  It sounds to me like you’d opt out of giving someone the Heimlich maneuver so as not to bruise their abdomen, letting them choke to death.

                  I can control my own actions and choose not to be a party to bad things

                  You can pretend to opt out but not voting or voting third is a choice not to help prevent the worse outcome. You’ve participated in bringing that to fruition.

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                    I thought you were asking for why one would be accept a greater evil, generally speaking, so I demonstrated why lesser evilism is not automatically the correct position.

                    You’ve participated in bringing that to fruition.

                    Nope, that is blatantly false. Not voting for either major candidate, so by definition I haven’t participated in getting either of them elected.