lesser evil calculus where it’s literally just n compared to n+1 is so unhinged like, this is not a meaningful measurement. if the harris admin promised to kill 200000 and maim one where the trump admin promised to kill 200001 are we making a difference here? kill 200000 and leave one on life support? what are we doing here. it’s so bleak 
What liberals can’t imagine is that Trump could actually fail to kill as many Palestinians, because he’s just that bad at foreign policy.
In their minds, what a politician promises to do and what they are going to are exactly the same. This applies to both their own preferred candidates and their opposition, they just credulously accept that they can do all the shit they promise to do.
Liberals would cheer Trump on if he was worse somehow. Like the time he launched missles at Syria and then he was suddenly a serious figure for a moment.
I was going to say this same thing.
Why is it just taken as a given that Trump will be worse on this?
I don’t see why he wouldn’t be, he was the President.
Sure, nothing like Oct 7 and Israel’s response came up during him but as others have said Trump’s policies did contribute to it.
Whether Trump will be just as bad or worse is not relevant. What matters is that Biden (and Harris) have allowed the genocide.
Honestly, such reasoning applies more to Harris, “she has never been the President, maybe it’s just rhetoric”. The only point for Trump is that “he’s incompetent”
I’d say on foreign policy alone Trump is a potential minor improvement.
Trump has no political loyalty beyond himself. He could absolutely be convinced to pressure Israel depending on the media cycle. 99/100 he’d end up being about the same but there’s always the off chance that his idiocy leads to a good outcome. Something like demanding other NATO states contribute to Israel and then blowing it all up when none of them do. He’s unintentionally contributed to de-dollerization and a weakened America Empire.
Harris knows exactly how the sausage is made and she’s an full-throated supporter. She will never have a better outcome because she is ideologically committed to the worst outcome.
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