• BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Why doesn’t Trump have to announce a plan to stop war crimes? Why does Harris always have a higher bar to overcome than Trump? A protest to save lives has failed if more people die because of the protest.

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        2 months ago

        So you know that trump will be worse for Palistinians. And yet you’re willing to risk him winning to prove a point to Harris and democrats?

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          2 months ago

          My California vote won’t affect the federal election in any way except to ever so slightly budge the needle on third party popularity. If I were in a battleground state or hell even a battleground district I would take a different approach.

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      2 months ago

      Because everyone knows that Trump is not going to move on this issue, or really do anything good at all. Dems are supposed to be better than Trump, or at least they certainly insist that they are. People holding Kamala to a higher standard are taking the Dems at their word.

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        2 months ago

        Then they objectively know Trump is the worse option. With the polls as close as they are, the protesters are willing to let trump win which will lead more gazans to suffer and die. These protests feed trump and netanyahu.

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          2 months ago

          The protestors want an end to the US facilitating genocide. Most Democrats want fewer, if any, aid to Israel, yet Democrat leadership refuses to budge.

          You blame voters for “being willing to let Trump win”. Why not blame leadership for hurting their own chances at election by going against their own base?

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            I do blame the leaders, all of them who’ve been complacent in getting meaningful legislation passed to fix the structural issues in our democracy, but now is not the time to risk a fascist getting in to power when there is a very real risk that he will provide more aid to Isreal, possible send our own troops to fight for netanyahu, or worse.

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              The counter-argument to your point is that now is the best time, as voters have the leverage to elect democrats or not. In theory, Dem leadership wants to be elected and requires votes to achieve that goal. Biden met with progressive activists shortly after taking office and promptly told them to fuck off as, since he was already president, they no longer had anything to offer him.

              That said, I hear your point and am torn about how I will ultimately vote. I don’t live in one of the nine (arguably three) magic states where my vote will actually count, though, so it’s a bit of a moot point.

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      2 months ago

      Do you want Trump to win? Because that’s how you get Trump to win