• TheOubliette
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      2 months ago

      So then you agree that you should not support genocide nor vote for genocidal candidates?

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          2 months ago

          I asked a yes or no question.

          Man, y’all are scared to be direct and honest

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            “Shooting this dog will save the world. Take this gun. Will you shoot it?” Is also a yes or no question, but answering it entertains the notion that shooting the dog will save the world. The correct answer is “put the gun down, you’re acting silly. Killing the dog won’t save the world.”

            I fucking agree that both candidates are disasters for Palestine. But if you’re really gonna try to challenge that beast, start organising for a grassroots movement to overthrow the entire corrupt bourgeois state to place the means of production in the hands of the proletariat.

            But you won’t. I know you won’t. So in the meantime, you have to choose your best realistic option: vote. And you also have to be realistic when you vote. A third party candidate would need a genuine miracle to win at this stage, because they need serious momentum early on in the election season to have even a modicum of a chance at winning. And the FPTP system guarantees that only one of the two major parties will win.

            So you’re left with an imperialist who also wants to shit on their own country, and an imperialist who sort of paternalisticslly wants to “help” their country. Neither are great. Neither are even “good”. But one stinks a little less.

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              2 months ago

              Waiting on that yes or no answer.

              Edit: and I didn’t ask a loaded question so gtfo with that excuse.

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                It is a loaded question. It assumes that there is a way to vote that will actually end the genocide.

                Accept reality. Either choose your oppressor or remove them yourself.

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                  2 months ago

                  It assumes that there is a way to vote that will actually end the genocide.

                  No it doesn’t.

                  I await your yes or no answer. Please do less making things up.

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                    The context very well makes it clear you’re assuming that. Of course it would be better if you could vote for a candidate that wasn’t a bloodthirsty imperialist. But that’s sadly your only realistic option in your shithole country. Voting third party will be pissing your vote into the wind.

                    Like I said, either rise up or vote.

                    At least you have guns over there. You don’t have our excuse.