Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month agoJill Stein Hurts Donald Trump More Than Kamala Harris, Poll Suggestswww.newsweek.comexternal-linkmessage-square11fedilinkarrow-up19arrow-down162cross-posted to: electoralism@hexbear.netusa
arrow-up1-53arrow-down1external-linkJill Stein Hurts Donald Trump More Than Kamala Harris, Poll Suggestswww.newsweek.comSocialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month agomessage-square11fedilinkcross-posted to: electoralism@hexbear.netusa
minus-squarejordanlund@lemmy.worldMlinkfedilinkarrow-up5·edit-21 month agoIt depends on how you define “hurts more”. Looking at the polling for PA, but SPECIFICALLY polls done by the same agency, both with Stein and without Stein: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/ Oct. 7-10 857LV The New York Times/Siena College Harris - 49% Trump - 45% Stein - 1% Oliver - 0% Oct. 7-10 857LV The New York Times/Siena College Harris - 50% Trump - 47% In terms of raw numbers, yes, with Stein in the race Harris loses 1 point while Trump loses 2, so you’d THINK that means it hurts Trump more. But there’s no logistical difference between 47% and 45%. In elections where the winner is 50%+1, dropping from 50 to 49 is a HUGE difference.
minus-squareBaron Von J@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·1 month ago In elections where the winner is 50%+1, US popular vote elections aren’t 50%+1, though. Whoever has the most votes wins, regardless of percentage.
minus-squareRenfieldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 month agocame here looking for mental gymnastics this is the stuff!
It depends on how you define “hurts more”.
Looking at the polling for PA, but SPECIFICALLY polls done by the same agency, both with Stein and without Stein:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/
Oct. 7-10 857LV
The New York Times/Siena College
Harris - 49%
Trump - 45%
Stein - 1%
Oliver - 0%
Oct. 7-10 857LV
The New York Times/Siena College
Harris - 50%
Trump - 47%
In terms of raw numbers, yes, with Stein in the race Harris loses 1 point while Trump loses 2, so you’d THINK that means it hurts Trump more.
But there’s no logistical difference between 47% and 45%.
In elections where the winner is 50%+1, dropping from 50 to 49 is a HUGE difference.
US popular vote elections aren’t 50%+1, though. Whoever has the most votes wins, regardless of percentage.
came here looking for mental gymnastics
this is the stuff!