• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The thing is progressive policy gets the votes Harris is chasing here too

    When Obama flipped red ststaes in 08 it wasn’t because progressives turned out, because progressives always turn out.

    He flipped red states by flipping moderate voters with progressive policy.

    While moderates have favored the Democratic candidate in each of the past five elections, Barack Obama gained the support of more voters in the ideological “middle” than did either John Kerry or Al Gore before him. He won at least half the votes of independents (52% vs. 49% for Kerry), suburban voters (50% vs. 47% for Kerry), Catholics (54% vs. 47% for Kerry), and other key swing groups in the electorate.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2008/11/05/inside-obamas-sweeping-victory/

    And that’s even with the PUMA movement Clinton’s campaign started to get Dems to vote for Kerry.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action

    Even if we lose some votes, progressive policy is a net gain.