The Republican presidential candidate ridiculously claimed that Biden is "trying to hold" Bibi back, as the Israeli prime minister continued to ruthlessly bomb Lebanon and Gaza.

“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

  • Minarble@aussie.zone
    11312·
    2 months ago

    If you are an American voter and you sit this one out or vote 3rd party and Trump gets in you are directly supporting escalation and taking whatever little restraint away that Netanyahu is feeling from the USA.

    Instead of calls for restraint you will have cheerleading from the sidelines.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
      139·
      2 months ago

      I honestly think if you can’t be bothered to vote you need to shut the fuck up, not complain and keep your political opinions to yourself. If you’re not even gonna vote, shut the fuck up. I don’t wanna hear it.

      • sweetpotato
        926·
        2 months ago

        Pretty unfortunate for you that there’s free speech then huh? Not letting you spew your dnc propaganda undisturbed

          • sweetpotato
            55·
            2 months ago

            I wouldn’t know since I am not a republican. I’m just absolutely not ok with the Palestinian genocide, but you care so little that you only seen republicans, regardless if the critique comes from the right or from the left. You’d wish you could make me look like a republican.

            • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
              72·
              2 months ago

              If you’re gonna help Republicans by staying home or voting third party or some shit you may as well slap on the red hat

              • sweetpotato
                23·
                2 months ago

                I know you’d wish that, but unfortunately genocide is too much for me and the least evil argument doesn’t hold up anymore. There are red lines and dnc has absolutely crossed them. I’m not expecting you to understand, you clearly don’t care enough about the genocide.

                • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  41·
                  2 months ago

                  Cool, vote for Stein then. That way you can get three genocides (Gaza, Ukraine, and LGBTQ at home) instead of just one.

                  But for people that actually oppose genocide, Harris is the only vote that will actually accomplish anything.

                  • sweetpotato
                    21·
                    2 months ago

                    Ukrainian genocide? Where is this even coming from?

                    Regardless, your comment reveals the answer to your dilemma. If the question is how many genocides/oppressions you are willing to put up with, then it’s a system worth abolishing. If one party commits 4 genocides and the other 5, then would you choose the one committing 4? There is necessarily a point where both parties are doing so badly, they’re indistinguishable and they are both crossing the red lines, that applies for everyone of us, no exceptions. So the question then remains, where do you draw the line for this?

                    Another example I usually give for this is: one party being Hitler and the other being Hitler but he is giving a little bit more money to the healthcare system. Would you vote for Hitler? No, so you have to draw the line somewhere. We draw it at a genocide(and at numerous more issues which are for another discussion)

    • UltraGiGaGiganticEnglish
      22·
      2 months ago

      So I see you’re concerned about the mathematical flaws of First past the post voting and the spoiler effect that comes along with it.

      Did you know that alternative electoral systems exist? Ones where there isn’t a spoiler effect even. I feel like most democrats, like yourself, understand these faults quite well.

      So why are you mad about people who want to vote outside the two party system? Shouldn’t your anger be better directed at the two legacy poltical parties that protect this flawed voting system?

      We all understand that republicans like First Past The Post voting. They are moving to protect FPTP voting in states they control. However, democrats say they support democracy. So can you tell me why they continue to use FPTP voting in the majority of states they control?

      It’s not like this is a new issue. Its not like the democratic party just found out about the spoiler effect that comes with First Past The Post voting. Democrats have been quick to point out the flaws of our voting system longer then I’ve been alive.

      Again, if the democrats are so informed of the flaws of the voting system, why does it persist in the vast majority of blue states? Who is preventing this reform? It’s not the republicans… they aren’t in power in these states. In a two party system, that would leave only one political party responsible for this spoiler effect.

      The democrats.

      They have sat on their hands for countless decades, understanding the problem yet doing nothing to resolve the issue.

      So you see, you should be mad at the democratic party for putting their party over the needs of the people. Not the people who want to vote a certain way.

      It’s unreasonable to blame those unrepresented in government for what is. This is what we voted for… again… and again… and again. Over and over. This is the result.

      • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Cool. Do you have a way to implement RCV nationwide in the next two weeks? Because otherwise there are exactly two people with any chance of winning this election.

      • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        irrelevant - everyone knows and agrees. that doesn’t change that this election you have exactly 1 choice

        politics is shit. until you have other options, you have to live in the world you live in and not a fantasy