• TJA!@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    They are banning emulators but are then using them themselves. They are banning roms but are then using those same roms themselves.

    Sounds like hypocrisy to me

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      2 months ago

      Alright. Let me make sure I understand. Since Nintendo protects its IP, it isn’t allowed to use its own IP?

      Like, fuck Nintendo, but that doesn’t even make sense

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        2 months ago

        yes it is. what they’re doing is shitty, not illegal.

        "Hey don’t use emulators to play our games we’re gonna sue you.

        … and then just take that emulator software you made and sell it in our official devices. but still fuck you."

        not illegal. just giant assholes with no sense of self-awareness.

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          2 months ago

          They’ve never sued anyone for playing an emulated game. They have (most likely wrongly) threatened emulator developers over circumventing copyright and encryption. I don’t like it anymore than anybody else, but are we actually mad at a company for preserving their games? You can hate them for what they are doing to others while still being ok with their own emulation

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            2 months ago

            They’ve sued multiple times emulator developers, even when it’s completely legal.

            (it is 100% legal to emulate, and make emulators.)

            Due to the fact that a court case is expensive AF, this usually just kills the emulator group.

            we’re mad at nintendo precisely because they do not, themselves preserve games. While they try to sue emulation and game preservers, they also use their ROMs and emulations to sell games to the consumer.

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              2 months ago

              we’re mad at nintendo precisely because they do not, themselves preserve games.

              they also use their ROMs and emulations to sell games to the consumer

              Which is it? If they are selling the games they are preserved

              I said above they are going after developers. What I said they were not doing was going after an individual for simply playing a game with an emulator

              If you are going to rehash an old argument at least take the time to read it

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                2 months ago

                they are going after the developers that make it possible to play your emulated game…

                they aren’t selling all their games, and never have. ever wanted to play earthbound? you can’t legally…

                if you want to blame me for “rehashing arguments” then maybe look where you are first, and then read my comment. this isn’t a place for respecting copyright, or corporations fighting against preservation.

                feel free to check out my other comment on this post. where I link to nintendo using pirated roms and selling it back to us.

                point is to stop giving the rich ass company any benefit of doubt.

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                  2 months ago

                  I have so many things to be angry at Nintendo for I don’t see the point in complaining about them emulating their own games. Why is Dolphin still around? I played Earthbound legally on my Wii U. I understand you can no longer obtain it, and you should most definitely pirate it, but they have released it again. I’ve pirated all my Nintendo games for years. Fuck 'em. If they want to emulate their own games in their own museum, alright

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      2 months ago

      They are not “banning” emulators. They take action against two sorts of problems: leaking, and distribution of copyrighted material. Yuzu was taken down because they stupidly started charging for help with playing Tears of the Kingdom before its release. Other emulators have been threatened because they included binary console OS software (rather than actually fully emulating the console itself) or actually distributed game ROMs.

      Dolphin has been around for about 20 years now. Why? Because they don’t distribute copyrighted material, recommend against doing so, and don’t require to include any binaries from the console.

      Here’s all they had to both say and adhere to, to “survive” the supposedly blood-hungry Nintendo for longer than some of the people reading this have been alive:


      Where can I download game ISOs/ROMs?¶

      Short answer: You don’t. Buy games and dump them with a Wii.

      Long answer: Downloading commercial games is illegal and thus strongly frowned upon by the Dolphin developers. To prevent legal issues, this includes gray areas like downloading games which you purchased earlier. You don’t necessarily need to own a gaming console by yourself because you can buy a game disc and dump them with a friend’s console. On the other hand, copying a friend’s game dump is considered illegal again.

      https://dolphin-emu.org/


      Also, lol @ the idea that it’s hypocrisy for them to use their own game files. You understand that’s what a ROM is, right? It isn’t magic. It’s just a binary file.