• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      18 hours ago

      How would you feel if the US was sending weapons to a country that was killing your friends and family? What would you do?

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      I feel like the lesser of two evils argument fails at the point of literal genocide and war crimes including intentional strikes on aid workers explicitly approved by the Biden regime. I’m sure Trump won’t be better, but it’s hard to see how he can be worse. They’re burning hospital patients alive in their beds. Asking a Muslim to support this genocidal DNC while they are being genocided is honestly the perfect encapsulation of the “it’s your fault you don’t want to vote for our shitty do nothing but evil party” logic that has destroyed the democratic brand and empowered a GOP in chaos, who would be losing to a more competently managed party right now.

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        Trump stated earlier this year that if re-elected, he would ask Israel to make the Gaza issue “go away” in under a week. It’s one thing to be supplying the weapons, but quite another to have the most powerful country give their approval to do whatever it takes to end the conflict to Israel’s benefit. There was a Palestinian newspaper article I saw a couple months ago that gave the opinion that under Harris they would get bombed, but under Trump they would cease to exist. Of course when I linked that in a similar discussion I was accused a picking my sources, because hey what does a Palestinian newspaper know about Palestine?

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          but quite another to have the most powerful country give their approval to do whatever it takes to end the conflict to Israel’s benefit.

          Israel already has approval! The arguments on the phone are kabuki theater

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          Trump says a lot of stuff. It’s usually awful. But he’s not much of a do-er, so I don’t think anyone can say exactly what he’d do different (the McGurk monster who is running all of this is a literal Trump first term holdover, so probably the same rabid dog would run the genocide either way). Biden is giving Israel explicit permission for all of this, including striking aid workers. Genocide Joe pretending he’s not fully supportive of this doesn’t un-burn-alive anyone. Words are wind. War crimes are war crimes. You can’t be the “lesser” evil perpetrating a genocide.

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            Agreed that we don’t know unless he’s given the chance to try something, but it’s not exactly something I’d like to “fuck around and find out”. There have been a lot of reports from people who were on his team during his last term that are talking about how he was talked down from extreme actions, and this time his people already know what they’re getting in to and are ok with it. I can only hope Harris can be better than Biden, but we do know Trump was willing to let his own nation (California) burn just because they didn’t all vote for him.

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            Trump says a lot of stuff. It’s usually awful. But he’s not much of a do-er

            This sure does read a lot like MAGAts saying “he doesn’t mean it like that” when he has repeatedly demonstrated he means the thing he said

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        You wanna know how he’ll be worse. You’re going to prison for this post. And you’ll ‘never have to vote again’ for any choice ever. He’s straight up fucking said it. This level of stupidity is un-fucking-fathomable.

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          They’re the target of racist assholes now and their families are being murdered now. What you hope for is that it gets worse so that they are punished for not being obedient.

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              Their families are being butchered, infantilizing them as being too stupid to know what’s good for them is actually kinda racist.

              I think you just want them to be punished for not bending the knee. It’s a revenge fantasy.

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      The important thing here is that I don’t have to be civil to these people. We should shame them at every chance and equate them to literal MAGA. Only then will we win the election, which is what this is about and is not some distraction.