Veganism is really small and we are the vanguards of the inheritance of civilization. Our thoughts and philosophy are not mainstream yet. This kind of question is irrelevant and damaging. When the time comes a vegan world would make sanctuaries and stop breeding the cows and they would slowly depopulate. We are hundreds of years from this eventuality and focusing on this kind of stuff is not helpful when people are actively and purposefully brutalizing a trillion animals a year.
Why would they depopulate? If they are permitted to, they will reproduce. There are numerous examples of domesticated populations surviving without people. See literally all wild horses in America.
You are talking about something irrelevant and not currently the reality. This kind of thought process is frankly a waste of time because we can’t even get people to agree killing animals is wrong, why are we going to jump the gun hundreds of years to design a solution that may not be appropriate when the time comes?
The reality is that we sell gallons of bull semen and forcibly impregnate cows by the hundreds of millions cows to keep this system going. This will and must stop. Every single cow is bred currently. Cows are not wild animals. The wild aurochs are gone and the cows are not the same. They require human intervention. In a vegan world they would be in a sanctuary which would manage their populations down by not breeding them and separating bulls.
Yeah, no. It isn’t important. It is completely ridiculous to be stuck on this literally hundreds of years too early. Meat consumption is still going up, why are we going to start planning for something that isn’t going to happen in anyone’s life time? We still need to plan on how to get meat consumption to actually go down. It is jumping the gun and this is sealioning in my opinion.
The build outs of nuclear power by the imperial core is a threat to me and my safety and shouldn’t be allowed. The United States is not trust worthy and it scares me to think they can end the world and they will be the ones to do it. They already are the only nation in the world that nuked civilians and they did it twice. There are theoretical reactors that don’t enrich plutonium but they will never build them. I don’t feel like getting hit with a nuclear weapon and anyone who promotes it is irresponsible and or fascist in the core and believe they have a right to rule by nuclear terror. The power plants they build are incredibly dangerous and they lack the ability to maintain them safely, Japan, Russia, the US have all had major long lasting nuclear disasters. To make this worse uranium is pretty much only mined on indigenous lands with out compensation.
I would prefer a scale back of energy use and a build up of renewable infrastructure.
Are you vegan? If not I am not interested in having a discussion about a dangerous technology that is for weapons generation for a person who refuses to do the bare minimum for the environment. If you are not vegan I don’t believe you are really able to judge what is safe or not and make consistent bad decisions every time you eat.
How is that relevant?
Because they and their allies are the ones who are enriching plutonium and they have to qualms about using it. I don’t want nuclear power precisely because I do not want nuclear weapons.
Your “safest” qualification is total and complete bullshit. It takes one more disaster for that to not be true. It is not safer than solar panels and wind generation. My home is fully powered by renewables, I’m a million times sure that is safer than having a nuclear reactor.
You techbros are irresponsible and uneducated, you are parroting your nations military industrial propaganda to me with no proof only vibes.
Veganism is really small and we are the vanguards of the inheritance of civilization. Our thoughts and philosophy are not mainstream yet. This kind of question is irrelevant and damaging. When the time comes a vegan world would make sanctuaries and stop breeding the cows and they would slowly depopulate. We are hundreds of years from this eventuality and focusing on this kind of stuff is not helpful when people are actively and purposefully brutalizing a trillion animals a year.
Why would they depopulate? If they are permitted to, they will reproduce. There are numerous examples of domesticated populations surviving without people. See literally all wild horses in America.
You are talking about something irrelevant and not currently the reality. This kind of thought process is frankly a waste of time because we can’t even get people to agree killing animals is wrong, why are we going to jump the gun hundreds of years to design a solution that may not be appropriate when the time comes?
The reality is that we sell gallons of bull semen and forcibly impregnate cows by the hundreds of millions cows to keep this system going. This will and must stop. Every single cow is bred currently. Cows are not wild animals. The wild aurochs are gone and the cows are not the same. They require human intervention. In a vegan world they would be in a sanctuary which would manage their populations down by not breeding them and separating bulls.
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Yeah, no. It isn’t important. It is completely ridiculous to be stuck on this literally hundreds of years too early. Meat consumption is still going up, why are we going to start planning for something that isn’t going to happen in anyone’s life time? We still need to plan on how to get meat consumption to actually go down. It is jumping the gun and this is sealioning in my opinion.
Change of topic: how do you feel about nuclear power?
The build outs of nuclear power by the imperial core is a threat to me and my safety and shouldn’t be allowed. The United States is not trust worthy and it scares me to think they can end the world and they will be the ones to do it. They already are the only nation in the world that nuked civilians and they did it twice. There are theoretical reactors that don’t enrich plutonium but they will never build them. I don’t feel like getting hit with a nuclear weapon and anyone who promotes it is irresponsible and or fascist in the core and believe they have a right to rule by nuclear terror. The power plants they build are incredibly dangerous and they lack the ability to maintain them safely, Japan, Russia, the US have all had major long lasting nuclear disasters. To make this worse uranium is pretty much only mined on indigenous lands with out compensation.
I would prefer a scale back of energy use and a build up of renewable infrastructure.
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Other poster seems to be worried about dual use of the tech to create weapons, or use of the enriched uranium or plutonium for weapons.
Are you vegan? If not I am not interested in having a discussion about a dangerous technology that is for weapons generation for a person who refuses to do the bare minimum for the environment. If you are not vegan I don’t believe you are really able to judge what is safe or not and make consistent bad decisions every time you eat.
Because they and their allies are the ones who are enriching plutonium and they have to qualms about using it. I don’t want nuclear power precisely because I do not want nuclear weapons.
Your “safest” qualification is total and complete bullshit. It takes one more disaster for that to not be true. It is not safer than solar panels and wind generation. My home is fully powered by renewables, I’m a million times sure that is safer than having a nuclear reactor.
You techbros are irresponsible and uneducated, you are parroting your nations military industrial propaganda to me with no proof only vibes.
Why is this a concern? Is there an issue with a (what I imagine would be a small) wild pulation?