Even as someone who tends to play along with bans, this seems like a weird concept. I’m referring to those moments you walk into a club or a service one day and the people in charge say something along the lines of “you’re banned from our establishment because we learned you’re an artist that deals with controversial subject matter” or “we banned you because we heard that was you who engaged in those reckless activities that sent that one person to need care”.

We barely are able to enforce the Hague convention, so it makes me wonder what the mindset is when people try to take this on, as outside your jurisdiction, something could potentially be of any kind of context, as rules, etiquette, and protocol can differ enough between clubs and services that it’s almost as if the laws of physics can sometimes seem to differ.

One day, I witnessed a conversation between some rule enforcers and someone I know, and the suspicious rule enforcers asked why the individual so often likes to remain as low a profile as possible, and the individual responded “if I was as open about myself to everyone as everyone else is with each other, the amount of restrictions I’d have would quintuple due to the sheer amount of people who have grown a habit of hating me for no ethical reason whatsoever”, which also drags the issue of openness into the conversation.

Or… or maybe I’m wrong and/or am missing something. What’s your opinion on this practice? And what stands out to you as the last or most notable time this happened?

  • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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    If a club knows that you have “art” screaming the N word or something, ignoring that it makes you a bad person, it also very easily can be relevant to their actual business of providing a safe environment with some specific atmosphere if other patrons recognize you.

    Is that an extreme version of “controversial art”? Sure. But the way you’re presenting it sure sounds like something like that is a possibility, and there are plenty of other “controversial” things you can do that similarly instigate shit.

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    It depends on the context of the ban.

    I’m okay with ostracizing shitty people and I don’t think there needs to be empirical law defining what makes someone shitty.

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    How often do you think this happens? Aside from one friend that got in a fight at a bar, I don’t know anyone who’s ever been banned from anywhere.

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    Be specific:

    What would be a ‘thing’ in your weird world?

    What would be a ‘ban’ in your weird world?

    What would be a ‘jurisdiction’ in your weird world?