• ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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    1 month ago

    that works until they start connecting to wifi networks that are open, or to which they somehow got to know the credentials

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      1 month ago

      This, or show an annoying popup over the screen saying it can’t connect to network and wifi needs to be configured

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      1 month ago

      Fake news, as far as I can tell. Lots of claims this is happening, but nobody has brought receipts. Considering how easy it would be to catch, and how likely illegal it is to connect to and use networks without permission, this is definitely an urban legend.

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        1 month ago

        Lots of claims this is happening

        I don’t know of this is happening, but I don’t see how a small automatic updare couldn’t “add this feature”

        Considering how easy it would be to catch,

        how easy it would be?

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          Super easy. Anyone who knows networking could detect new device connections on an open network they set up. I know next to nothing about networking and I could set it up in 10 minutes, 5 of which would be finding my old router in the basement.

          So I’m not going to give this a moment’s thought until someone brings receipts. It’s not hard to check if this is happening.

          • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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            Anyone who knows networking could detect new device connections on an open network they set up.

            assuming that it will connect to your network. if it connects anywhere else, good luck to figure it out. at that point you can throw a laptop with capturing all nearby wifi traffic and hope you somehow recognize the TV if it appears among the possibly dozens of other devices

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              I don’t think you’re understanding how trivial this is to detect:

              Set up an open WiFi network in an area without any other open WiFi networks. i.e. almost anywhere outside of dense urban areas. Then you don’t even need to inspect traffic, just look at connected devices in admin controls. No devices should be connected aside from your monitoring device.

              There’s no way the TV manufacturers are going to risk the legal quagmire that would come from this when there’s no plausible way to keep it remotely secret.