It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

  • voiceofchris @lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    This article is the most logically corrupt piece of statist drivel i have read today. “No, no, don’t vote for who you feel best represent your values. Instead, pretend like everyone else who shares those values is going to team up and vote for the same one of the two people they dislike.” Because, in essence, the “logic” used in this article only works if you assume that all of the third party voters are pulling from one candidate.

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      7 hours ago

      The electoral system in the US is broken. In this system there’s a 100% chance that Trump or Kamala will win. That’s not even a question, it’s undeniable fact. So, in this electoral system, if you actually want to have a say in which of these two wins, then vote for that one. Otherwise you’re likely to get the other one. Helping some other candidate get 10% does absolutely nothing to help your values.

      As long as first past the post and electoral colleges are a thing in the US, that’s just the reality of the situation.

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        6 hours ago

        I disagree. Third party votes do quite a bit to move political platforms. No one wants to leave 10% of the vote on the table when that’s all it takes to seize victory. So they move their platforms to encompass what the 10% are voting for.

        if you actually want to have a say in which of these two wins,

        That’s just it. I, and many others do not value having a say in which of these two gets elected as highly as we value promoting 3rd parties, speaking our hearts with our votes, and edging towards a better political situation for the next generation.

        But yes, the electoral system is broken. And ending first past the post will be the single biggest savior of US politics.