watching Wild Green Yonder with a friend, me watching the movie on my Plex, them watching the version broken into episodes on Hulu.
i pulled Hulu up to make sure i stayed synced, and the Hulu version quickly pulled ahead of mine. i didn’t notice a missing scene but i wasn’t paying close attention to the Hulu version.
when Hulu auto-cycled to the next episode, even with outro and intro credits, it brought it back to sync with my version. we’re ⅓ through episode two, and Hulu is currently 14 seconds ahead, although we started this episode synced.
TV stations used to do this in the late 90s and early 2000s (maybe they still do it, idk) to increase ad space given the fixed time formats of the medium. Hulu doesn’t really need to do that, they can just make the ad breaks longer.
they could be doing it, it could be for nefarious reasons like making longer ad breaks seem perceptually shorter, it could be something stupid like they’re use the masters that were destructively edited by the above process (see 90s cartoons like ren and stimpy, Rockos modern life, Beavis and butthead, etc that retain censorship to this day because the original masters no longer exist unmolested), or (imo most likely) it could just be a technical issue. Most/all streaming networks have totally garbage apps and it wouldn’t shock me at all if their player introduced issues that fucked with timing at the expense of draconian drm or just bad lowest bidder coding. Of course, it could also be a problem with your setup
Easiest way to resolve these issues is piracy. You already have a plex server, nice. I recommend jellyfin to anyone starting out. Plex is fine but they
havereserve the right to snitch on users in certain situations so fuck plex. If media companies stop being greedy and splitting catalogs all over the place then maybe reconsider. The music industry figured out how to have multiple vendors that all have 95+% of each others catalog, movies and tv can do the same. They’ve even gotten to the point where the apps are as good or better than my pirated library. My flac library is imperceptibly different from apple lossless, they have lyrics ready to go for the overwhelming majority of tracks and most are time synced (which I can’t be bothered to do for a 2tb music library, automated lrc downloaders are often wrong in my experience), their app has great ui, and with recent updates I can even remove vocals from literally any song. I’ll happily pay $120 a year to not bother with maintaining a ratio on red or dealing with mislabeled shit on soulseekCan you cite any examples? I’ve been using Plex for over 10 years and while I’ve heard plenty of conspiracy theories along these lines I’ve never seen any actual evidence of it happening.
So I will concede that I can’t find any after 5 minutes of searching. I could’ve sworn I read an article about sharing user data to German authorities but I can’t find it all. I did find articles about them banning entire hosting providers in Germany they found suspect because of high rates of pirate servers on said hosting, maybe that’s what I was remembering. Either was I was w-w-w-w-wrong on that point, edited original comment.
I still maintain fuck plex. They are trying to whitewash away their association with piracy with ugly decisions and policy. I don’t trust their software.
First from plex themselves:
“It is Plex’s policy to document all notices of alleged infringement upon which Plex decides to take action. As with all legal notices, a copy of the notice may be sent to one or more third parties who may make such notice available to the public, including as a part of legal proceedings.”
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-copyright-policy/
While you can (for now) opt out of targeted advertising related data collection you cannot opt out of all data collection unless you delete your account and specifically request your data to be erased. Even then they may not honor this request if there is a legal issue regarding copyright
“After verifying your identity, Plex will delete Personal Data associated with your account except that we may retain archived copies as required by law. Keep in mind that this option will result in the full deletion of your Plex account itself (including any subscriptions associated with that account such as TIDAL or Plex Pass). The account will no longer be accessible once you do so”
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/
They can and will ban you for hosting pirated content servers to others because it reflects poorly on them. This would be whatever except a plex pass is like $140
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/26/24084116/is-plex-banning-people-for-sharing-their-libraries
The aforementioned note of them banning an entire hosting company because of a high rate of pirate servers, catching legitimate users in the crossfire:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/plex-is-cracking-down-on-pirated-content/
Plex is more mature than jellyfin and has a ton of financial backing but in my experience jellyfin is 90% of the way there (especially if you use kodi as a frontend to make up for jellyfins weakest attribute, the inconsistent and often weak player apps). Plexamp is probably the biggest disparity, jellyfin has music players that are somewhat there but Plexamp is really good. That said it’s worth it, imo, to forgo that to have a solution that is entirely local and not reliant on a company that is increasingly worried about their association with media piracy
None of that really applies to a a private, locally run server. Don’t share your plex server with strangers and you’re fine.
There are people who have claimed to have been banned for sharing their servers with family and friends. In a lot of cases plex has reversed the bans, to be fair, but not always.
But that underscores the issue with plex: you don’t own the rights to your locally stored media or the ability to stream it using their software. They do, and they can terminate it at any point for violation of copyright. which means literally every user of plex, unless there’s someone out there literally serving just their home videos or something.
Like I said in my original post I don’t think it’s necessarily a “burn it all down” situation. If you’ve paid for plex and/or have your library all set up might as well keep it there until something changes. But if you’re just starting out or you got banned? Jellyfin all the way. At least then you know you’ll always be able to stream your media as long as the hardware works
Love it
You can choose not to believe them. Even if they’re lying that doesn’t change the fact that you’re using software that robs you of your freedom. Why are you even on lemmy? Go back to reddit if you’re fine with corporate ownership having the ultimate say in your decisions
On Lemmy for sync tbh
I also want to hear about the snitching.
I’d heard most famously Seinfeld was sped up by 7% in syndication to sell more advertising space. I do it to my own videos sometimes just to shorten them for today’s attention span
You’re doing it wrong, you’re supposed to slow your videos down to milk those precious view seconds!