• celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Why would anyone in their right mind want to upgrade to Windows 11? The only valid reason is you want to play an online multiplayer game that uses kernel level anti-cheat.

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    7 hours ago

    So in other words, switch to Linux, never look back, bever again use anu Microsoft software or product. Done.

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      7 hours ago

      People talk about Linux as if it’s easy to use for most people. Also the reason I never switch to Linux is cause of the annoying Linux people who won’t shut up about Linux

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        5 hours ago

        It feels like screaming into the void on Lemmy, but until there is official support for peripherals I use every single day (looking at you stream deck and GoXLR) I will likely never switch to Linux as my only OS. Dual boot on different drives on the other hand…

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        6 hours ago

        I’ve spent much of the day trying to get Yunohost/Debian running on my old 2011 MacBook.

        It’s much quicker and easier to install the latest macOS on it, and that ain’t right.

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    2 days ago

    I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.

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    2 days ago

    Or I could switch to Linux…

    OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can’t ditch Windows twice.

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    2 days ago

    PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.

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        5 hours ago

        A lot of people will just be paying for 0patch for a while, I’m sure. The remainder will just not patch at all and hope for the best.

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          You also could just move to Windows 11 or Linux. Realistically Windows 11 isn’t that big of change. Windows 10 gas most of the same anti features.

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    2 days ago

    My computer can’t upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I’m putting Linux on it.

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      My computer can upgrade to win11. I clearly remember the vendor stating that when I bought it last year.

      I’ll stick to linux, though.

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        Mine too. I tried 11 and went back to 10. Honestly, only thing keeping me on Windows currently is my plex*arr servers. Guess I have a year to figure out docker.

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          I cannot seem to find that setting in uefi to turn on that chip… Anyway, I keep trying to get my VR library (98 games) to register more than 3, and room setup is a major stroke of luck.

          If there are any suggestions on a distro that will power my rtx 4070ti super, ryzen 7 3800, 32 gb ram, HTC Vive, on its own 4tb sata SSD, I would like to hear them. So far Kubuntu has gotten me the closest.

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    Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.

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      It also has the benefit of inertia. Everyone knows Microsoft from either school or marketing. They are the standard and anyone else has to fight decades of standards. It also helps that they historically created the best tools for easily managing fleets on machines. Now days they are pushing everyone to Azure but before they had the best tools to build your business on. It was so convenient to have Windows server with all the server stuff like AD, SQL and IIS. They basically were they only well known option until the last 5-10 years.

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      PowerShell is another advantage, oddly enough, though I’ve been worried for a bit the direction they’re going with that… Everything they’re doing now is Azure and they’re pushing everything to Graph, and the way all of it works is a massive pain for anyone trying to use PowerShell the way it was designed to be used

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        python exists. dont subject yourself to vendor lock-in.

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          17 hours ago

          Python exists but I personally like PowerShell more. I’m not crazy about it being Microsoft owned, but it’s at least open source at this point, for whatever that’s worth.

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    2 days ago

    This isn’t news, it’s just the standard notice that Microsoft isn’t going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.

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      You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn’t powerful enough to run win 11. It’s not about the older hardware being too weak, it’s about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.

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      I dunno, I’ve got a laptop who’s CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it…

      This is the first time they’ve intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.

      Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.

      Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it’s blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.

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        They want you to buy a new Windows license. Also all of there bloated Electron apps run better on fast hardware

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      That’s not what anyone is asking and if that’s what MS said then they’re just dodging the issue entirely. If you buy a motherboard on your own today TPM still wouldn’t be enabled. And their “support” never went farther than hardware manufacturers registering where Windows could pull driver updates from. So that’s just the worst take I’ve seen in this whole thing.

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    2 days ago

    After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.