They will always do it so long as it weakens the left. The DNC exists to badger any left of center movement toward their center right position, and even put DNC funds to extremist right winger campaigns boosting Christian nationalist platforms… learning nothing from clintons pied piper failures only pushing us all closer to a fascist hellscape just to say guess we vote blue since we have nowhere else to go. Fuck Jill Stein and all but this is the exact shit that leaves me voting for literally any socialist instead.
I mean I agree with everything you said about democrats, but I don’t view voting as some endorsement of a system or party. I vote for the conditions I want to organize under.
Fair enough. Thats why I usually downballot blue too. At best it prevents local rightwingers from gaining momentum and at worst it gives the DNC enough rope to hang themselves with.
I only see the system changing in two scenarios short of civil war or coup. Either the dnc will lose and all the less privileged libs who wont collaborate with the fash join the fight, creating an actual resistance OR the dems will sweep a super majority and continue to enact right wing policies for the entire term with no excuses, disenfranchising young voters and creating a vacuum for a third party.
Because everyone uses their opposition’s lawyers when there’s thousands of other choices. Additionally, everyone refuses to call a war criminal a war criminal when asked- several times.
It’s only unsubstantiated to people who refuse to accept it.
She was grilled over and over again, and side-stepped the question every time. Putting out a statement afterwards is simply her doing damage control. Anyone with any common sense that’s paying attention would have had no problem answering the question when asked.
“Either you’re a war criminal or you’re not. Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?” he asked again.
“In so many words, yes he is,” Stein said. “If you want to pull him back, if you are a world leader, you don’t begin your conversation by calling someone a war criminal.”
Which was then followed by a written statement calling him a war criminal.
I think she made a fair point about the difference between russia and israel. One is sponsored by the US and one is not. We have responsibility towards who we sponsor. There isnt much to gain by calling Putin a war criminal if you intend to take an office where you’d then need to negotiate with him diplomatically.
Do you really expect the anti-war party to throw out escalating rhetoric?
She’s a Shill, bud. And not only that, but- she’s over. Finished. The cat is out of the bag and thankfully, she will never see herself in a position of authority in America. And because of this. No one has to take any of you seriously anymore.
So please, just stop defending her to me. It’s pointless.
They will always do it so long as it weakens the left. The DNC exists to badger any left of center movement toward their center right position, and even put DNC funds to extremist right winger campaigns boosting Christian nationalist platforms… learning nothing from clintons pied piper failures only pushing us all closer to a fascist hellscape just to say guess we vote blue since we have nowhere else to go. Fuck Jill Stein and all but this is the exact shit that leaves me voting for literally any socialist instead.
I mean I agree with everything you said about democrats, but I don’t view voting as some endorsement of a system or party. I vote for the conditions I want to organize under.
Fair enough. Thats why I usually downballot blue too. At best it prevents local rightwingers from gaining momentum and at worst it gives the DNC enough rope to hang themselves with.
I only see the system changing in two scenarios short of civil war or coup. Either the dnc will lose and all the less privileged libs who wont collaborate with the fash join the fight, creating an actual resistance OR the dems will sweep a super majority and continue to enact right wing policies for the entire term with no excuses, disenfranchising young voters and creating a vacuum for a third party.
And the left exists to siphon votes towards the right. See? Unsubstantiated claims work both ways.
Its funny because Jill Stein being a shill is an unsubstantiated claim too.
Because everyone uses their opposition’s lawyers when there’s thousands of other choices. Additionally, everyone refuses to call a war criminal a war criminal when asked- several times.
It’s only unsubstantiated to people who refuse to accept it.
She put out an official statement saying Putin is a war criminal. Thats like a reverse uno substantiated claim!
She was grilled over and over again, and side-stepped the question every time. Putting out a statement afterwards is simply her doing damage control. Anyone with any common sense that’s paying attention would have had no problem answering the question when asked.
There is no defense for her shilling.
NONE.
“Either you’re a war criminal or you’re not. Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?” he asked again.
“In so many words, yes he is,” Stein said. “If you want to pull him back, if you are a world leader, you don’t begin your conversation by calling someone a war criminal.”
Which was then followed by a written statement calling him a war criminal.
I think she made a fair point about the difference between russia and israel. One is sponsored by the US and one is not. We have responsibility towards who we sponsor. There isnt much to gain by calling Putin a war criminal if you intend to take an office where you’d then need to negotiate with him diplomatically.
Do you really expect the anti-war party to throw out escalating rhetoric?
She’s a Shill, bud. And not only that, but- she’s over. Finished. The cat is out of the bag and thankfully, she will never see herself in a position of authority in America. And because of this. No one has to take any of you seriously anymore.
So please, just stop defending her to me. It’s pointless.
Its not pointless if I’m enjoying thr conversation! I’ll give you a break though.