• ProcurementCat@feddit.de
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    Fuck that, I’m gonna assume that Trump will win a 2/3 supermajority in both house and Senate as well as the president. I will do all I can do to convince people to vote democrat like my life depends on it.

    Because it fucking does.

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      Amen! I’m assuming Trump is going to win until he doesn’t. I’m also assuming if he doesn’t win we’ll have another 1/6 because there is no way he will drop the fraudulent election BS.

      I hope neither happens but I will love under the assumption of them happening till they don’t.

      P.S. No one particularly likes Biden but if given the choice between him and Trump/DeSantis there is no way in hell I’m not voting Biden.

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        I like Biden. I just wish he wasnt such an old President. I wish he had gotten elected in 2008, with Obama as his VP. Crimea would be much different today. We probably wouldn’t have ever had a Trump Presidency, as Obama would have likely been elected in 2016 if he was up against Trump instead of Clinton.

        The biggest knock on Biden over the years was all the stupid stuff he says. (His “Gaffes”). But now that we’ve had a Trump Presidency, saying stupid stuff is an asset.

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          Bidens speech has never bothered me since he has a legitimate reason for it. As for his age I agree he is to old. But I also think no one of retirement age, 65+, should hold elected office.

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            I’m not even talking about his speech impediment, though. He has famously let his mouth get ahead of his brain over the years, and said things that he immediately regretted. Heck, it’s possible that his age is helping him in this respect, because he can’t physically talk as fast anymore.

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            The thing is, Trump is only three years younger than Biden, so I don’t know why the focus is always on Biden’s age.

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            It really depends on the 65 yo though. I mean I’m only 13 years from that and I don’t think I’m as quick as I was when I was 40. Now I consider myself a lot more wise than I was at 40 so I guess it’s a trade off.

            I do think there should be a limit honestly but more like 75. Of the folks I know that is when they really start hitting that cognitive limit. Like my MIL constantly getting turned around in my new house when they visited. It’s only like 1500 sq ft … how can you get lost? And don’t even get me started on the argument I almost got into with my FIL about student debt relief. He probably still thinks college can be paid for by working at McDonalds over the summer and books are like $20 a semester. Freakin’ boomers.

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          Yeah the age thing is a bit bothersome and I’m really tired of all these old boomers (I’m a gen-x’er) … can we get somebody in office who has a clue about tech please and not think the internet is a series of tubes.

          I do wish he were a little more progressive but for the most part he’s done a really good job. Am I excited about Biden? No. Am I scared to death of Trump/Rhonda Sand Tits? Fuck yes. Will I vote for Biden? Absolutely. I was so happy when Biden got into office and I didn’t have to wonder about the horse running through the hospital anymore (It’s a John Mulaney bit… quite hilarious).

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        Amen! I’m assuming Trump is going to win until he doesn’t. I’m also assuming if he doesn’t win we’ll have another 1/6 because there is no way he will drop the fraudulent election BS.

        It’s worse. Because of gerrymandering and voter suppression, democrats on average need to win the popular vote in state and national elections by 11 points just to overcome the bias towards Republicans and win a simple majority in the parliaments.

        P.S. No one particularly likes Biden

        I do. I genuinely do. I know many dislike him because he was responsible for some shit legislation and voting behaviour in the past. Dunno, student loans, crime reform, wars? Those are good points.

        But he has changed. He really has. And even if some of his personal views may have not changed, for example, about marijuana, he still adheres to his parties platform and public leftist opinion and implements such policy changes. That’s why he gave a federal pardon to everybody who got convicted for simple crimes of posessing marijuana and everybody who will..

        I deeply admire this guy. When he cries then he does so out of real emotions. He’s not like those psychopathic politicians who fake cry for personal gain.

        He’s a stutterrer and knows how it is get bullied and how to deal with that. He has lost his first wife, daughter and lost another son and knows that tragedies can happen to anybody, and it shouldn’t be a death sentence for a family that already struggels. He has a problematic son and still loves him unconditionally, unlike Trump who probably, actually hates his sons. He has seen how unemployment and low income affected his family, and how unionization has helped. That’s why he, even when he was proclaiming a more conservative platform than today, was always on the sides of unions (except until the striking train workers. Not sure what happened there and I’m sad he acted that way)

        He understands and values competency, and nominates and installs officials who know what they are doing, who are actually among the best at what they do, and he listens to them.

        If he has the means, he actually does the stuff he promised. He immediatly, literally in his first days of office, raised the minimum wage for all federal workers to 15$. He didn’t have the senate majority to to this for the national federal minimum wage, but what he could do he immediatly did. He stopped student loan payback until they had a plan ready to forgive it (at least the 10k he promised to forgive, which also would’ve made the majority of borrowers debt-free). And when the republican corrupt supreme court struck it down, he already had a Plan B to keep going.

        This dude knows how american politics works. Give him the tools, he gets shit done. He got the goddamn 1400$ checks through a Manchin and Sinema senate. He even got them to confirm his supreme court pick Ketanji Brown Jackson. This isn’t and wasn’t easy and he still got it done.

        He has done so much that people forgot because the propaganda campaigns immediatly stopped after he implemented the change. I already talked about the 1400$ checks (remember the shitstorm about those for months?) or the marijuana pardons. But do you remember the Insulin cap to 35$/month? Killing the Keystone XL pipeline? Ending Trumps family separation policy and reuiniting the families? Expanded Medicaid and Medicare? Enshrined same sex marriages into law to prevent another Roe vs Wade like overturn? That he used the wartime production act to kickstart the Covid-19 vaccines and literally that’s why we got them so quickly? Ended that muslim travel ban? Rejoined the Paris climate accord?

        Give that guy solid house and senate majorities for four years and the US will become a fucking amazing country.

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      Agreed. Clinton Blowout mentality was a contributing factor to 2016. America may never recover if Trump wins again.

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        Or the world. He will back down and let Russia win on Ukraine which will embolden china on Taiwan

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      It’ll be a blowout as long as you motherfuckers show up to vote against him and any other republicans on your ticket

      People need to stay worried, stay alert, and show up to vote. Not just for the presidential election. Anyone taking the time to read posts here has paid attention to what Republicans have wrought over the past few years whenever they’ve had power.

      Folks - never vote Republican, never vote in a way that indirectly benefits Republicans. The strawmen about what progressives might do barely measure up to what the Republicans have done.

      Turn out for the midterms, turn out for your piss ant local elections. If you have the time, get involved with assisting a campaign you favor. Obstruct Republican power grabs at every opportunity. It’s the only path forward - we’ve been shown the alternative.

      Voting Republican: Not even once.

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        People need to stay worried, stay alert, and show up to vote. Not just for the presidential election. Anyone taking the time to read posts here has paid attention to what Democrats have wrought over the past few years whenever they’ve had power.

        Folks - never vote Democrat, never vote in a way that indirectly benefits Democrats. The strawmen about what conservatives might do barely measure up to what the Democrats have done.

        Turn out for the midterms, turn out for your piss ant local elections. If you have the time, get involved with assisting a campaign you favor. Obstruct Democrat power grabs at every opportunity. It’s the only path forward - we’ve been shown the alternative.

        Fuck your partisan bullshit.

        Eat the rich.

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          That’s a remarkably lazy response. (and no less partisan bullshit than what I wrote) Dems could be MUCH better. Despite that, they aren’t actively working to roll back rights for women, minorities, and LGBTQ+ among other things.

          Fuck your partisan bullshit.

          Oh boy someone used the F word. Now I’m convinced.

          Edit: I’m not a cheerleader for Democrats. What I am is someone who absolutely despises Republicans. They may both be bad, but they are absolutely not the same.

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            You missed the point. The lazy was on purpose. I’m not a republican cheerleader either, but I believe they ARE absolutely the same. Guillotine them all.

            • The lazy was on purpose.

              And it continues!

              I’m not a republican cheerleader either, but I believe they ARE absolutely the same

              I didn’t miss it, I got that. I disagree. I’m just less rude about it than you. Goodbye!

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          And what have Democrats done that you don’t like?

          Note that I’m not asking what some blue haired person on Twitter said that you didn’t like, but policy that has been enacted.

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      I hate how adverse so many democrats are to actually getting out to vote. I’ve voted in every election I was eligible to vote in yetso many of my peers will casually shrug their shoulders and say they didn’t feel like getting out.

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    With Democrats, its never a blow out. They will always find some way to make a race that they have in-the-bag somehow turn competitive by opening some stupid opportunity for Republicans. People could claim that the last presidential elections were blow outs… but when you’re running again a goddamn Russian asset, it shouldn’t even be remotely close. And let’s not forget thag the White House is but one of many, many other races.

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        That’s what they do best! And I say that as a lifelong Dems. They are just so god awful at messaging and marketing their ideas.

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    This is an article from David Frum.

    David Frum was a speechwriter for George W. Bush.

    Don’t trust these fucking people - it sucks, but no time to rest. We work hard and fast and SERIOUSLY until the actual threat of these hateful, ignorant, unapologetic fascists is defeated at the polls.

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    I’m not so sure. The Republican Party held its nose and voted for him the first time around and Trump got 70 MILLION votes the second time around. Biden has been fairly effective, however he certainly doesn’t seem to be exciting to too many people, including driving the youth vote, which I believe he will need to pull off another win.

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      I agree that he isn’t exciting but I don’t think the president should be exciting. He or she needs to be a capable leader who is good at picking teams otherwise I want to know very little about the day to day of the president’s life. More weekly blog post and less constant tweeting.

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        But that’s the thing, Trump, despite being a terrible person and president, was genuinely pretty popular with his voter base. They will more than likely come out to vote, despite his popularity declining a bit. However, Biden, while being a relatively sane, levelheaded president, is not really popular. His VP isn’t particularly liked (bad pr or not, that is an issue) and a lot of his voter support seems to be, "well, at least he isn’t Trump. " I find that incredibly scary, as it means in my mind that Biden being re-elected isn’t such a slam dunk as a lot of the DNC seems to project.

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          All my neighbors, probably 15 or so rural/suburban pensultuky had 2024 flags and all of them are gone since the trial. He really pissed off a chunk of those folks.

          We’ll see how they vote should he be the nomination however.

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        That’s the problem now, though. These asshats all think they are celebrities.

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      Boring is now a feature imo. I’m so fatigued by news cycles, social media, and Trump that a boring candidate sounds fantastic. Unfortunately, we in the U.S. are hooked on controversy and division, which only benefits politicians and corporations.

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        And that’s the key. Literally the only people left of center who aren’t voting for him have to twist themselves into an ideological pretzel to avoid it, and they are mad that the GOP makes the decision so obvious.

        You can tell they’re pissed off that when a guy in a white hood runs against a pro-labor railfan they don’t get the chance to be deliberative and critical about their decision to vote. They hate that the decision tree converges on voting for him because it’s either outright support for his policies or critical support against fascists. So they come up with these wild reasons not to vote for him and spend inordinate amounts of time denying that they supported outcomes that favor Republicans on the state and local level as a consequence of their defection.

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        Yeah, but there is a factor to turnout of how much the candidate at the top of the ticket is activating voters. And with articles like this one, saying “trump will surely lose,” that excitability factor only increases in importance.

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    eh, many folks will be voting for desantis if he can pull off the nomination. President trump had his term in office already